Darth Sidious vs. Voldemort

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Listen midget wearing clownshoes.... Sids doesn't need to close the distance. He can IMMEDIAETLY TP Voldy.. or he can immediately TK Voldy.. neither of them requiring him closing the distance. He can do them just fine with the distance they start apart. What you have failed to do is cite one instance of Voldy resisting TP. He has zero feats showing he can resist it. Game over funny looking midget

Voldy's TK is no where close to the level of Sidious. Besides it's irrelevant.. Sids will react first and get his TK off first. I've already shown Sids reacting super fast and defeating people with enhanced reactions themselves. Voldy never out sped somebody with enhanced reflexes and speed. Sids has. He will react first. Then there is the issue of Sids TP him and voldy having no defense for it.. No matter how you figure it Sids wins.... unless he takes Voldy too lightly and starts toying with him.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Voldy's TK is no where close to the level of Sidious. Besides it's irrelevant.. Sids will react first and get his TK off first. I've already shown Sids reacting super fast and defeating people with enhanced reactions themselves. Voldy never out sped somebody with enhanced reflexes and speed. Sids has. He will react first. Then there is the issue of Sids TP him and voldy having no defense for it.. No matter how you figure it Sids wins.... unless he takes Voldy too lightly and starts toying with him.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Voldemort can fly and his flight is much faster than Palpatine who only really excels up close and personally due to his quickness. Anakin was not ready for it so it kod him. Yoda was not ready thus it Ko'd him. When he was ready he parried it and was not Kod from the aftershock.

Voldemort is ruthless and warded off Dumbledore attacks via close range meant to kill.

No, he is not. Palpatine was just stupid and never foresaw a father rebelling and killing him while he was torturing his son.

His face was not scarred until this attack that Palpatine laterconfirms scarred his face before the senators. Palpatine lost and there is no proof he lost the saber duel on purpose. Laughable delusions.

I have proof I just enjoy mocking your ignorance.

No.

Who cares how fast Voldemort's travel speed is? Sidious has much faster reflexes and will disable Riddle with a gesture. How was Anakin not ready for it? He was charging Dooku ffs. Remind me when did Anakin block Dooku's lightning after that? Because I don't remember Dooku using lightning against Anakin after he stomped Obi-Wan.

Sidious is even more ruthless. This guy genocides planets.

Sids is definitely not stupid, he engineered the downfall of the Republic and the Jedi. He's much more intelligent than Voldemort. Vader was destined to kill Sidious no matter what.

Protip: Sidious was lying to the senate to gather sympathy for himself and to turn the senators against the Jedi. There's plenty of proof if you actually watch the movie.

Yeah, sure you do.

Yes. He's not as fat as you, though.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Who cares how fast Voldemort's travel speed is? Sidious has much faster reflexes and will disable Riddle with a gesture. How was Anakin not ready for it? He was charging Dooku ffs. Remind me when did Anakin block Dooku's lightning after that? Because I don't remember Dooku using lightning against Anakin after he stomped Obi-Wan.

Sidious is even more ruthless. This guy genocides planets.

Sids is definitely not stupid, he engineered the downfall of the Republic and the Jedi. He's much more intelligent than Voldemort. Vader was destined to kill Sidious no matter what.

Protip: Sidious was lying to the senate to gather sympathy for himself and to turn the senators against the Jedi. There's plenty of proof if you actually watch the movie.

Yeah, sure you do.

Yes. He's not as fat as you, though.

No, he is not. Voldemort slaughters his own in combat. He isn't even close to being as psychopathic as Voldemort.

Political manipulation and hiding your true intentions is pussy shit. Voldemort made his intentions quite clear. He forced his will on the people he did not hide his true intentions.

After the lightning hits him in the face it scars him. Undeniable fact. You have zero proof of your claim. You're like an idiot.

I am also not fat, dumb/muscle head.

How fast is Voldemort anyways? Because even weaker Jedis can deflect blasters that can cross kilometers in seconds

Originally posted by StealthRanger
How fast is Voldemort anyways? Because even weaker Jedis can deflect blasters that can cross kilometers in seconds

Voldemort uses a superior energy blast based on feats than the weak laser the saber has deflected. It is also a continuous stream of energy.

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And yet many jedi struggle against skilled opponents such as Cad Bane, Jango Fett, etc.

Cool, don't care about them, Sidious is the only one who matters here, do try to keep up

Voldemort uses a superior energy blast based on feats than the weak laser the saber has deflected

>Voldemort
>superior firepower

Nope

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on what ? In close hand to hand combat. Windu then beats him one on one. Voldemort has the same powers and can counter. Palps TK defeats no one, ever.

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he blitzed and KILLED three acclaimed Jedi in a matter of seconds. We're talking about people with ENHANCED reflexes and speed.. yet they couldn't even react to Sids blitz.. two died right away.. another after a few seconds.

NOW... Show me Voldy using that kinda speed against somebody with enhanced speed themselves and blitzing them. I'll await your proof.

this fight comes down to who can get off first. I've shown Sids is superior speed wise to Voldy and will get off first and thus win.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Cool, don't care about them, Sidious is the only one who matters here, do try to keep up

>Voldemort
>superior firepower

Nope

Voldemort has superior firepower, one shot death curses, torture curses, flight, teleportation.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
he blitzed and KILLED three acclaimed Jedi in a matter of seconds. We're talking about people with ENHANCED reflexes and speed.. yet they couldn't even react to Sids blitz.. two died right away.. another after a few seconds.

NOW... Show me Voldy using that kinda speed against somebody with enhanced speed themselves and blitzing them. I'll await your proof.

this fight comes down to who can get off first. I've shown Sids is superior speed wise to Voldy and will get off first and thus win.

Watch the Dumbledore clip and see his reflexes.

Voldemort can fly. He wins no matter the case.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sidious has no feats against the best of the bounty hunters.

Idiot. Wether some Jedis here and there had trouble with bounty hunters means shit when we're talking about an absolute god tier of Star Wars here

Voldemort has superior firepower, one shot death curses, torture curses, flight, teleportation.

Sidious has much superior telekinesis, hell, even Dooku could crush and tear bolted durasteel machinery and pillars, I think Anakin TK'ed an AT-TE once but not sure. Voldemort gets neck snapped

Should I mention that magical creatures (such as giants and dragons) can resist such spells because of magical power? And how Sidious is above such beings in power and speed

Or how Sidious is way too fast for Voldemort anyways? And how lightsabers can cleave through everything in Harry Potterverse?

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Idiot. Wether some Jedis here and there had trouble with bounty hunters means shit when we're talking about an absolute god tier of Star Wars here

Sidious has much superior telekinesis, hell, even Dooku could crush and tear bolted durasteel machinery and pillars, I think Anakin TK'ed an AT-TE once but not sure. Voldemort gets neck snapped

Should I mention that magical creatures (such as giants and dragons) can resist such spells because of magical power? And how Sidious is above such beings in power and speed

Or how Sidious is way too fast for Voldemort anyways? And how lightsabers can cleave through everything in Harry Potterverse?

Dooku can tear machinery yet can't tear foes in combat with his tk. Whose necks have they snapped ? Quit making things up. Voldemort casually moved a giant so based on your flimsy, shit arguments he does the same.

We see Giants in the films be struck by magic.

Prove it by showings. Citr evidence not your shitty opinion. Try to debate, scumbag.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What you just said has no value in terms of a debate. Saying he is in a god tier is worthless, nerd. Prove it by showings.

And you miss the point, weaker showings of lesser beings have no merit on a guy capable of stomping the shit out of them

It'd be like attributing Sazaku to Sensui, or Raditz to Vegeta, or a Space Marine to Angron or Leman Russ

Dooku can tear machinery yet can't tear foes in combat with his tk.

Or you know, just didn't, or said foes were too durable to being with

Whose necks have they snapped ? Quit making things up. Voldemort casually moved a giant so based on your flimsy, shit arguments he does the same.

Claiming he can't do something even though it'd logically be within his powerset is against the rules. Reported, since you've been warned of this several times

Or Sidious just TK's Voldy-chan's wand and snaps it like a twig, and then snaps Voldemort's vagina

We see Giants in the films be struck by magic.

Magical creatures in the Pooterverse are heavily resistant to magic. Sidious>>>>them

Prove it by showings. Citr evidence not your shitty opinion. Try to debate, scumbag.

Originally posted by ROTS novelisation
Anakin blinked and rubbed his eyes again. Maybe he was still a bit
flash-blind the Korun Master seemed to be fading in and out of existence,
half swallowed by a thickening black haze in which danced a meter-long bar of sunfire. Mace pressed back the darkness with a relentless straight-ahead march; his own blade, that distinctive amethyst blaze that had been the final sight of so many evil beings across the galaxy, made a haze of its own: an oblate sphere of purple fire within which there seemed to be dozens of swords slashing in all directions at once. The shadow he fought, that blur of speed-could that be Palpatine? Their blades flared and flashed, crashing together with bursts of fire, weaving nets of killing energy in exchanges so fast that Anakin could not truly see them-But he could feel them in the Force.

Considering that Jedi in general are far above Voldemort in terms of speed, Sidious speedblitzes the shit out of Voldemort

Originally posted by StealthRanger
And you miss the point, weaker showings of lesser beings have no merit on a guy capable of stomping the shit out of them

It'd be like attributing Sazaku to Sensui, or Raditz to Vegeta, or a Space Marine to Angron or Leman Russ

Or you know, just didn't, or said foes were too durable to being with

Claiming he can't do something even though it'd logically be within his powerset is against the rules. Reported, since you've been warned of this several times

Or Sidious just TK's Voldy-chan's wand and snaps it like a twig, and then snaps Voldemort's vagina

Magical creatures in the Pooterverse are heavily resistant to magic. Sidious>>>>them

[QUOTE=ROTS novelisation]Anakin blinked and rubbed his eyes again. Maybe he was still a bit
flash-blind the Korun Master seemed to be fading in and out of existence,
half swallowed by a thickening black haze in which danced a meter-long bar of sunfire. Mace pressed back the darkness with a relentless straight-ahead march; his own blade, that distinctive amethyst blaze that had been the final sight of so many evil beings across the galaxy, made a haze of its own: an oblate sphere of purple fire within which there seemed to be dozens of swords slashing in all directions at once. The shadow he fought, that blur of speed-could that be Palpatine? Their blades flared and flashed, crashing together with bursts of fire, weaving nets of killing energy in exchanges so fast that Anakin could not truly see them-But he could feel them in the Force.

Considering that Jedi in general are far above Voldemort in terms of speed, Sidious speedblitzes the shit out of Voldemort [/QUOTE]

You need to prove it. You just make baseless claims and confuse that as evidence. It isn't. I have no idea who these losers are you keep referencing.

We see blasters, etc. Hurt the Jedis yet can't tear through machinery. You need an actual feat to support your shitty points not just speculation and bias as your points.

You're such a loser. 😂

You need showings to suggest as much but I spun your own logic back onto you. Sidious is an older man and since Voldemort can TK a giant with ease then he can do the same, loser.

Based on what ? We see magic clearly affect them. we see dead Giants in the films and magic clearly affect them. Should I report you, loser ?

Based off what showings ? Want to time out the shotty reaction feats from both, loser ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
You need to prove it. You just make baseless claims and confuse that as evidence. It isn't. I have no idea who these losers are you keep referencing.

Rich coming from you of all people

We see blasters, etc. Hurt the Jedis yet can't tear through machinery. You need an actual feat to support your shitty points not just speculation and bias as your points.

Blasters are the same things that vaporise 0.5 or so meters of durasteel, you somehow think that's a low end showing?

You need showings to suggest as much but I spun your own logic back onto you. Sidious is an older man and since Voldemort can TK a giant with ease then he can do the same, loser.

"Old man" Well yeah, if you ignore his durability feats or tanking shit from Yoda and force users being able to tank eachother's force attacks

If Voldemort were hit by the attacks Yoda threw at him he'd be like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LhLjpsstPY#t=285

Voldemort only TK'ed a dead giant a few meters off a bridge, hardly means much to shit like Darth Maul TK'ing a space ship or Ashoka and some younglings collapsing a mountainside or something along those lines, or Sidious flinging many Senate Pods around at high speeds

Based on what ? We see magic clearly affect them. we see dead Giants in the films and magic clearly affect them. Should I report you, loser ?

Oh that's funny, given you tried to stonewall the Balrog's feat of soloing Moria in a LOTR thread for "lack of details", you're a god damn hypocritical troll

Based off what showings ? Want to time out the shotty reaction feats from both, loser ? [/B]

I already told you, Sidious and Windu moving so fast Anakin couldn't physically see them, same Anakin who can outmaneuver droid starfighters who have relativistic reactions, I know you're mentally disabled, but do try to keep up

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Rich coming from you of all people

Blasters are the same things that [B]vaporise 0.5 or so meters of durasteel, you somehow think that's a low end showing?

"Old man" Well yeah, if you ignore his durability feats or tanking shit from Yoda and force users being able to tank eachother's force attacks

If Voldemort were hit by the attacks Yoda threw at him he'd be like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LhLjpsstPY#t=285

Voldemort only TK'ed a dead giant a few meters off a bridge, hardly means much to shit like Darth Maul TK'ing a space ship or Ashoka and some younglings collapsing a mountainside or something along those lines, or Sidious flinging many Senate Pods around at high speeds

Oh that's funny, given you tried to stonewall the Balrog's feat of soloing Moria in a LOTR thread for "lack of details", you're a god damn hypocritical troll

I already told you, Sidious and Windu moving so fast Anakin couldn't physically see them, same Anakin who can outmaneuver droid starfighters who have relativistic reactions, I know you're mentally disabled, but do try to keep up [/B]

Nah, they don't even vaporize people. How many blasts did it take to kill Grevious's weak heart ? 😂 evidence, angry guy.

He is a really old man who needs a cane in Return to Jedi. Yoda force pushes him. That isn't powerful and just pushed him back. Hardly impressive.

Prove it. Voldemort wards off walls of flames, giant bubbles of water designed to drown him, falling from great heights while flying and being fine.

Maul's weight is pathetic when compared to a giant. He barely even concentrated while doing so. Yoda also overpowered the pods with his Tk. Tk definitely counters Sidious as evidenced by his fight with Yoda.

We literally see magic affect them on screen. Evidence, loser.

We see Anakin could see them and he cut off Windu's slow reacting arm due to being so slow and indecisive. Ironic.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I debate based off evidence you don't. 😂

Nah, they don't even vaporize people. How many blasts did it take to kill Grevious's weak heart ? 😂 evidence, angry guy.

Because Greivous is simply that durable

Also don't give a shit, if it vaped 0.5 meter wide sections of durasteel, then it happened

He is a really old man who needs a cane in Return to Jedi. Yoda force pushes him. That isn't powerful and just pushed him back. Hardly impressive.

And guess what, in the throne room, he was walking just ****ing fine

Are you seriously stupid enough to believe the cane was for anything other than to keep up appareances?

Also "Palpatine was only pushed back and nothing else" by your logic, Voldemort's final beam clash with Harry isn't that powerful because it didn't cause massive collateral damage and push Harry back through several walls 🙄

By by all means, hypocrites gon' be hypocrites

Prove it. Voldemort wards off walls of flames, giant bubbles of water designed to drown him, falling from great heights while flying and being fine.

Does he tank said magic attacks? As for falling, so did Anakin in AotC, guess how well he fared against Dooku, who is worthless next to Sidious

Maul's weight is pathetic when compared to a giant. He barely even concentrated while doing so. Yoda also overpowered the pods with his Tk. Tk definitely counters Sidious as evidenced by his fight with Yoda.

And you cannot read, not that that's a surprise, but please, do tell me where I said anything about his weight, over him TK'ing a fairly big space craft?

Good for ****ing Yoda then, who'd also crush Voldemort

We literally see magic affect them on screen. Evidence, loser.

There were more than just wizards defending Hogwarts, you know

We see Anakin could see them and he cut off Windu's slow reacting arm due to being so slow and indecisive. Ironic.

"We can see them on screen so they must be slow" ala useless unquantifiable bullshit which is meaningless until you get to an actual feat, which says Voldemort gets blitzed

Also, Anakin said he could still feel them through the force

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Because Greivous is simply that durable

Also don't give a shit, if it vaped 0.5 meter wide sections of durasteel, then it happened

And guess what, in the throne room, he was walking just ****ing fine

Are you seriously stupid enough to believe the cane was for anything other than to keep up appareances?

Also "Palpatine was only pushed back and nothing else" by your logic, Voldemort's final beam clash with Harry isn't that powerful because it didn't cause massive collateral damage and push Harry back through several walls 🙄

By by all means, hypocrites gon' be hypocrites

Does he tank said magic attacks? As for falling, so did Anakin in AotC, guess how well he fared against Dooku, who is worthless next to Sidious

And you cannot read, not that that's a surprise, but please, do tell me where I said anything about his weight, over him TK'ing a fairly big space craft?

Good for ****ing Yoda then, who'd also crush Voldemort

There were more than just wizards defending Hogwarts, you know

"We can see them on screen so they must be slow" ala useless unquantifiable bullshit which is meaningless until you get to an actual feat, which says Voldemort gets blitzed

Also, Anakin said he could still feel them through the force

No, his heart was weak hence the reason it had armor protecting it. Weak lasers.

He is still an old man who uses his force powers to move around at a quick pace.

It was due to old age just like with Yoda. There is a difference. The force push hit Palpatine the force beam didn't hit anyone, kiddo.

He tanked the magical ball of water like a champ and warded off the fire. He's too good to be hit, sport.

That required more of his concentration than Voldemort who casually brushed aside a giant. 😂

We see wizards affect the Giants with magic. It doesn't matter as we see proof.

You assume speed when we don't see any evidence due to fanboyism. You can't prove anything. Continue to cry like a *****. Voldemort wins based off evidence.

Crucio, Abada Kedavra, fireball, Fiendfyre.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He can use flight so the speed matters as SIDS cannot even touch him. Ironic since SIDS was disarmed in both love action film fights yet you claim Voldemort will be disarmed. You have no proof just baseless claims. He charged in carelessly while Obi blocked the force lightning. If you couldn't comprehend that obvious point. Even Obi tried telling him to stop because he recklessly ran in like a dolt.

No, he is not. Voldemort slaughters his own in combat. He isn't even close to being as psychopathic as Voldemort.

Political manipulation and hiding your true intentions is pussy shit. Voldemort made his intentions quite clear. He forced his will on the people he did not hide his true intentions.

After the lightning hits him in the face it scars him. Undeniable fact. You have zero proof of your claim. You're like an idiot.

I am also not fat, dumb/muscle head.

lol, Sidious can easily TK him before Voldemort takes off. Not to mention that flying or hiding doesn't stop Sidious from Force chocking him. Sidious was disarmed in a LIGHTSABER DUEL, which is irrelevant since Voldemort doesn't use a saber. Yes, Anakin charged recklessly, that doesn't make it a cheap shot, it'd be a cheap shot if he hit Anakin from behind.

Voldemort, the man who can't conquer a single school, is a bigger psycho than the guy who wrecked a galaxy. You are hilarious, Quan.

And that's why he lost, because he's an incompetent imbecile. Sidious would school him in the battlefield and in the political arena.

So why didn't it scar anyone else? It is you who is the idiot, friend.

Yes, you're also short AND fat. I hope you aren't as ugly as Ron, at least.