Raiden vs. Ichigo Kurosaki

Cyborg ninja Raiden from the Metal Gear games clashes his sword against the substitute shinigami's from the Bleach Manga.

This will be Ichigo from SS to FKT arc but is prohibited from going Final Getsuga and certainly can't go Vasto Lorde. He starts off in his base form. Bankai and Hollow Mask are allowed.

Battle will take place in Karakura Town.

Can Raiden keep up with Ichigo's speed, will he survive Ichigo's power ups long enough for them to tucker the soul reaper out, can Ichigo withstand his opponent's monstrous strength? Who will win in this fight?

He can take the win if he attacks Ichigo's Shikai and Bankai. Mask Ichi will be wearing Raiden out with those Getsugas.

Originally posted by Nemesis X

Cyborg ninja Raiden from the Metal Gear games clashes his sword against the substitute shinigami's from the Bleach Manga.

This will be Ichigo from SS to FKT arc but is prohibited from going Final Getsuga and certainly can't go Vasto Lorde. He starts off in his base form. Bankai and Hollow Mask are allowed.

Battle will take place in Karakura Town.

Can Raiden keep up with Ichigo's speed, will he survive Ichigo's power ups long enough for them to tucker the soul reaper out, can Ichigo withstand his opponent's monstrous strength? Who will win in this fight?

1. Yes, and easily
2. Well I don't think Raiden can survive Ichigo's attacks, since he's lower end city level last I was aware
3. Not sure, though Raiden is prolly stronger
4. Raiden can win if he can avoid Ichigo's energy attacks

Raiden can't avoid his energy attacks. Contrary to popular belief Raiden isn't very fast. Sundowner implied that he's slower than mach 2, and Raiden couldn't even blitz that Scientist who had a gun to George's head and had to bifurcate him.

Meanwhile Bleach characters were hitting multiple mach speeds early in the series.

Basically he dies horribly, Ichigo could easily blitz him, probably even over power him since characters in Bleach were easily class 100+, and has so many options to kill him.

Unintentional spite..

And yet you have Raiden deflecting machine gun fire from close range, cutting guys to small pieces with swords the size of houses in the time it takes falling rubble the time to fall a millimeter

Why are you using a low showing anyways?

It's a tactic fanboys use to make their favorite character win. Example quan she, he always lowballs characters he doesn't like and highballs or wanks his characters that he does like.

I'm well aware of this tactic chuckles. It's very common, Star Wars threads being a shining example

Originally posted by StealthRanger
And yet you have Raiden deflecting machine gun fire from close range, cutting guys to small pieces with swords the size of houses in the time it takes falling rubble the time to fall a millimeter

Why are you using a low showing anyways?

Raiden cutting enemies to small pieces in a few seconds is with use of blade mode which is a game play mechanic. We don't use game play mechanics.

I'm not using low showings, I'm using factual information that's actually presented canonically, where you're trying to pass off a mediocre feat like deflecting machine gun fire, or using gameplay mechanics in an argument.

Try harder

Originally posted by MicCheck
Deflecting machine gun fire is a peak human feat, and yes, I can show several examples of peak humans deflecting machine gun fire.

Raiden cutting enemies to small pieces in a few seconds is with use of blade mode which is a game play mechanic. We don't use game play mechanics.

I'm not using low showings, I'm using factual information, where you're trying to pass off a mediocre feat like deflecting machine gun fire, or using gameplay mechanics in an argument.

Try harder

lol, show me one peak human who can deflect machine gun fire with his blade casually (by that I mean cut bullets down with your blade, not hold up and object infront of you to stop the bullets)

No, Blade Mode is a legit ability, and yes we have used his before in debates and in QTEs he uses one of Excelsus' (sp?) arms in blade mode, so it's canon

No, you're lowballing by trying to use low ends

Hang on, I gotta get my post count up, I'll own you again in a bit

Same guy always makes a new account to low ball MGS characters.

It ain't low balling if it's true and consistent, which you know...it is...

People like to scream low balling when they can't come up with any counter argument.

Not it isn't

And you clearly don't know how vs debating works

Originally posted by StealthRanger
lol, show me one peak human who can deflect machine gun fire with his blade casually (by that I mean cut bullets down with your blade, not hold up and object infront of you to stop the bullets)

No, Blade Mode is a legit ability, and yes we have used his before in debates and in QTEs he uses one of Excelsus' (sp?) arms in blade mode, so it's canon

No, you're lowballing by trying to use low ends

http://i409.photobucket.com/albums/pp176/Strafe_Prower/KatanablocksBullets.jpg

Now you can stop about machine gun fire, it's getting sad at this point

Kenji Saito, the director for the game states that it's a gameplay mechanic

http://www.primagames.com/games/metal-gear-rising-revengeance/strategy/director-kenji-saito-talks-metal-gear-rising-reven

Where was blade mode when George had a gun to his head? Where was blade mode in any cut scene in the game, against Sam, or Sundowner, or Armstrong?

Oh yeah, it doesn't exist outside of a gameplay mechanic. Tough sh*t

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Not it isn't

And you clearly don't know how vs debating works

Says Blade Mode is a legit ability, yet Raiden doesn't use it on at least three occasions where it would of helped him significantly

Originally posted by MicCheck
http://i409.photobucket.com/albums/pp176/Strafe_Prower/KatanablocksBullets.jpg

Now you can stop about machine gun fire, it's getting sad at this point

Kenji Saito, the director for the game states that it's a gameplay mechanic

http://www.primagames.com/games/metal-gear-rising-revengeance/strategy/director-kenji-saito-talks-metal-gear-rising-reven

Where was blade mode when George had a gun to his head? Where was blade mode in any cut scene in the game, against Sam, or Sundowner, or Armstrong?

Oh yeah, it doesn't exist outside of a gameplay mechanic. Tough sh*t

Or said peak humans are ****ing fast. Maybe that idea completely eluded your ass, no?

He doesn't disregard it as a legit ability and describes it's use in game. Plus feats>authors intent

Ever heard of a low end showing?

Maybe those ****ers are incredibly fast. Is the concept of powerscaling that foreign to you?

Jesus, this is almost as dumb as disregarding Star Wars high end speed feats because they've been gunned down by blaster bolts and such shit

Raiden's reaction and combat speed is crazy high sure, but his running speed is not supersonic.

Didn't quite say it was but, whatever

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Or said peak humans are ****ing fast. Maybe that idea completely eluded your ass, no?

He doesn't disregard it as a legit ability and describes it's use in game. Plus feats>authors intent

Ever heard of a low end showing?

Maybe those ****ers are incredibly fast. Is the concept of powerscaling that foreign to you?

Jesus, this is almost as dumb as disregarding Star Wars high end speed feats because they've been gunned down by blaster bolts and such shit

My entire statement was that peak humans have deflected machine gun fire, it's not something to write home about.

My entire point is that you don't defend a character like Raiden and use a mediocre feat

It would be like defending Superman and saying he's strong because he can lift a car or a bus over his head.

You can use blade mode agains Sam, Sundowner and Armstrong in gameplay itself, just that Raiden never uses it in cut scenes or any canon material.

So yeah...gameplay mechanic..

And really, if you think that scientist was so fast that Raiden couldn't use blade mode on him then I think we're done here.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Didn't quite say it was but, whatever

Fair enough. But MicCheck's arguments all seem to be centered about how fast Raiden can run. It seems you two are arguing about fairly different things hence why I brought it up.