DCnU Superman attacks these characters

Started by abhilegend3 pages

Originally posted by Orrsome28
Firstly, I have no investment in Silver Surfer at all.

Now, am I to believe Superman>>>Spectre from this feat? I don't think so. The fact that Superman could and Spectre couldn't says more about the writing than the characters involved.

Lastly, other than destroying PS' form (only to reform later) the attack was pretty standard of Supes... fly really fast into them. That is what appears to be happening after all. So in that regard it isn't that impressive. The power on the other hand, I'll admit, is. Not to say I believe it makes much sense. It looks awesome, makes for alright storytelling but at the end of the day I find it hard to believe. So while you may in fact be in awe of the feat, I remain skeptical. But hey, that's just me.

Oh and JuggernautMania, thanks for that creative picture of 'too literal' you painted for me. I found it amusing. Although, now I'm a little disappointed I won't be seeing that guy, could have been helpful the next time I'm in a situation like that.


Superman does that type of things regularly. Just take these as an example. Monster manhandling Spectre and Martian Manhunter? Superman explodes him.

Or Soulfire Darkseid laughing off an attack from Source himself and Superman cutting him in half just pages after that.

It happens too many times to ignore.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Stop ignoring it, Carv. Superman > Voice.

Tbh, on a more serious note, I can see it happening. The Spectre is always being jobbed.


A jobber Spectre who was going to destroy the whole creation in his fight with Stranger?

😂

The Phantom Stranger hasn't been super impressive yet in the DCnU, the best thing he's done is fight with the newly born Spectre, even there the only reason I found it impressive was because it showed he could casually stop time indefinitely.

Even Wonder Woman put him on his arse during Trinity War. So in short, I don't think this showing from Superman is enough to say he can one shot kill his peers.

Originally posted by abhilegend

It happens too many times to ignore.
A jobber Spectre who was going to destroy the whole creation in his fight with Stranger?

😂

A jobber Spectre who fails to accomplish what Superman did, yes.

Strange how shattering the PS does not affect creation....

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
The Phantom Stranger hasn't been super impressive yet in the DCnU, the best thing he's done is fight with the newly born Spectre, even there the only reason I found it impressive was because it showed he could casually stop time indefinitely.

Even Wonder Woman put him on his arse during Trinity War. So in short, I don't think this showing from Superman is enough to say he can one shot kill his peers.


Not under this writer though. And she certainly didn't do that to Stranger's giant form.

I don't think that's a low showing in any way or form.

Also putting someone on his ass is vastly inferior to shattering his body to the point of laughable.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
A jobber Spectre who fails to accomplish what Superman did, yes.

Strange how shattering the PS does not affect creation....


Then that's a very strange definition of jobbing.

I can't help but laugh at this.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not under this writer though. And she certainly didn't do that to Stranger's giant form.

I don't think that's a low showing in any way or form.

Also putting someone on his ass is vastly inferior to shattering his body to the point of laughable.

I'm not really comparing the two feats, I'm just saying that Phantom Stranger hasn't been overly impressive thus far, to the point that even Wonder Woman has made him look bad.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
I'm not really comparing the two feats, I'm just saying that Phantom Stranger hasn't been overly impressive thus far, to the point that even Wonder Woman has made him look bad.

That lasso is haxxx. Nearly destroying creation to the point God himself has to intervene is impressive as hell. Spectre couldn't do anything to him last issue too.

http://i.imgur.com/nXXvuyQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7nFA1gl.jpg

Surviving Spectre trying to squeeze your life out and then putting him on his ass is impressive as heck.

Da**, Diana straight up owned him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That lasso is haxxx. Nearly destroying creation to the point God himself has to intervene is impressive as hell. Spectre couldn't do anything to him last issue too.

http://i.imgur.com/nXXvuyQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7nFA1gl.jpg

Surviving Spectre trying to squeeze your life out and then putting him on his ass is impressive as heck.

What do you mean nearly destroying creation? Are you referencing the presence-dog's statement? If so, he means that Spectre and PS represent a cosmic balance and disrupting it would threaten creation. There was no indication that their minor scuffle would have had any greater affects outside of local collateral damage.

Originally posted by carver9
Da**, Diana straight up owned him.

Close but no cigar carter. The lasso did all the work. That makes Superman casually breaking out of it even more impressive.
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
What do you mean nearly destroying creation? Are you referencing the presence-dog's statement? If so, he means that Spectre and PS represent a cosmic balance and disrupting it would threaten creation. There was no indication that their minor scuffle would have had any greater affects outside of local collateral damage.

Really? Presence said "play nicely or the whole creation may pay the price". That implies not to fight each other, not that their roles are so important.

Anyway all this nitpick of such a simple feat is mind-boggling. Like I said if it had been done by say Thor or Surfer, nobody would've asked a damn thing. Stranger is an abstract, shattering his body and soul in oneshot is ****ing impressive as hell when Spectre couldn't do anything to him in the LAST ISSUE.

Can we get back on topic please?

Reason why we're nitpicking, is because it could well be PIS.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, it was never stated that the strike was due to the psychic energy. All it did was center psychic energy on him which made him an epicenter of supernatural energy which the spirits were using as an anchor to enter this reality. Read the scans carefully.

😂

Where in the scans did it say the lasso did all of the work? She didnt use the lasso the way you think she did.

Originally posted by abhilegend
The lasso did all the work.

Your blatant hypocrisy in completely ignoring the massive boost which Superman got from the psychic energy of a million people when he performed that Abstract-busting feat notwithstanding, you mean to tell me that the lasso controls Diana's motor functions? That it somehow magically amped her when yanked the PS towards herself and then proceeded to choke her with the rope?

GTFO here with this bullshit.😆

Originally posted by abhilegend
Close but no cigar carter. The lasso did all the work. That makes Superman casually breaking out of it even more impressive.
Really? Presence said "play nicely or the whole creation may pay the price". That implies not to fight each other, not that their roles are so important.

Yes, and right before that it says; "you two have cosmic roles to play, you balance eachother precisely, play nicely ect.."

IMO, that references disrupting the cosmic balance, maybe if one kills the other all of creation would be threatened? Saying that little quarrel would threaten all of creation is a big reach for me.

Originally posted by Epicurus
Your blatant hypocrisy in completely ignoring the massive boost which Superman got from the psychic energy of a million people when he performed that Abstract-busting feat notwithstanding, you mean to tell me that the lasso controls Diana's motor functions? That it somehow magically amped her when yanked the PS towards herself and then proceeded to choke her with the rope?

GTFO here with this bullshit.😆

I'm glad that I'm not the only one who thought that it was the mass of psychic energy that gave Superman the capacity to pull off this feat. The Phantom Stranger's monologue gave me the feeling that the supernatural energy that surrounds Superman was the key and without it he wouldn't have fared nearly as well.

Originally posted by Orrsome28
I'm glad that I'm not the only one who thought that it was the mass of psychic energy that gave Superman the capacity to pull off this feat. The Phantom Stranger's monologue gave me the feeling that the supernatural energy that surrounds Superman was the key and without it he wouldn't have fared nearly as well.

Most sane people would agree with your assessment.

Originally posted by carver9
Where in the scans did it say the lasso did all of the work? She didnt use the lasso the way you think she did.
Originally posted by Epicurus
Your blatant hypocrisy in completely ignoring the massive boost which Superman got from the psychic energy of a million people when he performed that Abstract-busting feat notwithstanding, you mean to tell me that the lasso controls Diana's motor functions? That it somehow magically amped her when yanked the PS towards herself and then proceeded to choke her with the rope?

GTFO here with this bullshit.😆


facepalm

This is pitiful. Diana flipped Stranger after catching him in the lasso and that means she somehow owned him? What does that even means? That she is strong enough to flip him?

Also Superman wasn't amped by that psychic energy and according to the issue, it wasn't something new. Superman was always the center of that energy. Take your hating ass out of the thread.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Yes, and right before that it says; "you two have cosmic roles to play, you balance eachother precisely, play nicely ect.."

IMO, that references disrupting the cosmic balance, maybe if one kills the other all of creation would be threatened? Saying that little quarrel would threaten all of creation is a big reach for me.


Spectre couldn't kill Stranger at all as shown when he ate him and tried to erase him from the existence.

Also Zauriel erased Stranger from Existence and the creation wasn't ended.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Also Zauriel erased Stranger from Existence and the creation wasn't ended.

That's because it was God's will that he be erased.