Where would Lord Dracula tier?

Based on Dracula's powers/abilities and his average showings, where should he tier?

Low to Mid Herald. Although he could beat a High Herald depending on if that character could hit him or not. For instance, Terrax may have a very hard time with Dracula, because he may trend towards only being able to hit non magical characters, while Teth, or Captain Marvel would knock his block off, because they do more damage to magical creatures, than non magical characters like Terrax can or would.

Originally posted by Stoic
Low to Mid Herald. Although he could beat a High Herald depending on if that character could hit him or not. For instance, Terrax may have a very hard time with Dracula, because he may trend towards only being able to hit non magical characters, while Teth, or Captain Marvel would knock his block off, because they do more damage to magical creatures, than non magical characters like Terrax can or would.

Sounds very reasonable...

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IMHO, High Meta (it's just that his special abilities grant him wins against characters outside his Tier).

Originally posted by zopzop
IMHO, High Meta (it's just that his special abilities grant him wins against characters outside his Tier).

Have you taken a look at Dr. Strange? He durability is human, and yet he is a High Herald. Dracula IMO is low to mid Herald.

Originally posted by Stoic
Have you taken a look at Dr. Strange? He durability is human, and yet he is a High Herald. Dracula IMO is low to mid Herald.

Mid Herald. He can take on an entire team of X-men at the same time, or pretty much stalemate Thor.

When did he stalemate Thor? Does anyone have scans of this?.

Interesting discussion thus far guys...

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I'm with Zop I think. So if Punisher carried around a magic gun and beat killed Juggernaut and some other heralds with it, does that make him a trans level? Magic is a tool, as well as technology. Ghost Rider is a magical being as opposed to casting spells. Same as Thor. Batman could be a high herald based off the crap he pulls.

And yes, I wrote beat killed.

Originally posted by Stoic
Have you taken a look at Dr. Strange? He durability is human, and yet he is a High Herald. Dracula IMO is low to mid Herald.

Yeah, Zop's logic makes no sense to me. All characters are tiered based upon their abilities.

The problem is that Batman, and Frank would be using items, and not their own physical gifts. Iron Man is as great as his suit, and although it seems like the same thing, there are some differences. Iron Man's suit is a weapon, and it boosts his physical stats to the point that he can walk amongst Heralds. Dracula is a low to mid Herald considering all that he brings to the table.

Mimic would be a high Meta. Dracula would kill him, or the Thing. Blaastar wouldn't be able to stand up to him, neither would the Absorbing Man, Colossus, and many others in that tier.

Originally posted by Stoic
The problem is that Batman, and Frank would be using items, and not their own physical gifts. Iron Man is as great as his suit, and although it seems like the same thing, there are some differences. Iron Man's suit is a weapon, and it boosts his physical stats to the point that he can walk amongst Heralds. Dracula is a low to mid Herald considering all that he brings to the table.

Mimic would be a high Meta. Dracula would kill him, or the Thing. Blaastar wouldn't be able to stand up to him, neither would the Absorbing Man, Colossus, and many others in that tier.

Yout suggesting draco would best colossus? Or creel or ben? Thats laughable

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
I'm with Zop I think. So if Punisher carried around a magic gun and beat killed Juggernaut and some other heralds with it, does that make him a trans level? Magic is a tool, as well as technology. Ghost Rider is a magical being as opposed to casting spells. Same as Thor. Batman could be a high herald based off the crap he pulls.

so by your logic iron man cant be a real herald because thats all suits and guns he has? he is a street leveler? think before you write my friend.

Dracula has already beaten Colossus............

High Herald. Odin said that if dracula had more will to do damage he would break thor and pose a threat to asgard.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
And yes, I wrote beat killed.

Originally posted by ares834
Yeah, Zop's logic makes no sense to me. All characters are tiered based upon their abilities.

No right? Those are herald levels of power. Dracula is NOT a herald despite what you want to believe. He's a respectable High Meta who gets wins outside of his Tier vs certain opponents because of the way his powers work.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Yout suggesting draco would best colossus? Or creel or ben? Thats laughable

Laughable?

LoL...dont know much about Drac do you?

His gaze would own Colossus or Creel outright...

Ben might actually be strong enough to resist Dracs gaze (and thats debatable), but when Drac opens up his bag of tricks, he's just too versatile for Thing...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Laughable?

LoL...dont know much about Drac do you?

His gaze would own Colossus or Creel outright...

Ben might actually be strong enough to resist (And thats debatable), but when Drac opens up his bag of tricks, he's just too versatile for Thing...

Originally posted by abhilegend
Dracula has already beaten Colossus............

EDIT :
LoM click the link and scroll down. About mid way through is Dracula owning the X-Men :
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/dracula-vs-magneto-613765/