Saitama vs. HST

Started by ares8343 pages

It's not "dar evul pixul scaelingz" but rather "bro, do you even science?"

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Anyways, how else would you accurately quantify shit beyond merely eyeballing and going "oh yeah that's a km for sure, that's 500m, this is this and that is that and so on" hm?

I wouldn't. If I did though I certainly wouldn't use BS and flawed calculations.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
>It's incorrect, and authors have never drawn to scale, so it's irrelevant.

Well you do that, but when you want to try and argue otherwise, lemme know :maybe

I fixed your quote for you. 👆

If you want to argue authors drawing to scale, then your meteor feat for Saitama is entirely useless, because you are basing its destructive capacity solely on its size.

Originally posted by NemeBro
The Juubi is capable of destroying continents. Astner did a calc on it that got a similar result a while back as well, IIRC.

So in terms of firepower, it has Saitama beat.

True, but Saitama still has the ability to cause more damage with a punch. Plus he's fast enough to dodge biju bombs like they're stationary, and the Jyuubi will kill itself if it shoots a biju bomb too close, as stated by Obito or Madara(I forget which one).

Duh, in terms of firepower. Saitama doesn't have firepower, just the ability to punch stuff really hard, and move really fast.

Either way, Saitama can destroy meteors with single punches, and even the Jyuubi couldn't do that. All it takes is a single blitz followed by a massively overpowered punch from Saitama to the Biju's eye, and it's over.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
I fixed your quote for you. 👆

Nice "no u" retort

When you have some refutation, try again

Till then, shut your goddamn mouth and bear the shit you don't like

as for the "author's have never drawn to scale"

Well just too damn bad. Should have thought it through some more before they drew their shit out

Feats>authors intent

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Anyways, how else would you accurately quantify shit beyond merely eyeballing and going "oh yeah that's a km for sure, that's 500m, this is this and that is that and so on" hm?

Ya' know. Statements. Feats. Actually relevant calcs that don't rely on the author drawing everything completely precisely to the last nano-pixel.

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Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
True, but Saitama still has the ability to cause more damage with a punch. Plus he's fast enough to dodge biju bombs like they're stationary, and the Jyuubi will kill itself if it shoots a biju bomb too close, as stated by Obito or Madara(I forget which one).

Duh, in terms of firepower. Saitama doesn't have firepower, just the ability to punch stuff really hard, and move really fast.

Either way, Saitama can destroy meteors with single punches, and even the Jyuubi couldn't do that. All it takes is a single blitz followed by a massively overpowered punch from Saitama to the Biju's eye, and it's over.

Saitama's sub-relativistic now? Or can output exaton level firepower?

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Ya' know. Statements. Feats. Actually relevant calcs that don't rely on the author drawing everything completely precisely to the last nano-pixel.

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No, not everything is going to be consistent, then again, nothing in fiction will ever be 100% consistent. Good enough for debating purposes? Well unless you have something better beyond "I don't like it so it's wrong", then yes it will be

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Nice "no u" retort

When you have some refutation, try again

Till then, shut your goddamn mouth and bear the shit you don't like

as for the "author's have never drawn to scale"

Well just too damn bad. Should have thought it through some more before they drew their shit out

Feats>authors intent

lol, looks like it's that time o' the month again.

Or are you just one of those people who gets pissed from being so badly humiliated because of your own stupidity?

As for the "too damn bad"

That's just too damn bad.

Are you saying that Vegeta here was literally bigger than Namekian mountains?

I literally can't think of a better example. Just like in Superman, when he "sneezed away a solar system", and Superman was bigger than the three asteroids he blew away, despite being right next to them.

Statements DEFINE manga and narration DEFINES comics. If you weren't a crying three year old that just lost horribly, you'd realize that.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Saitama's sub-relativistic now? Or can output exaton level firepower?

Uh, is the Jyuubi?

"Saitama doesn't have firepower, just the ability to punch stuff really hard"

👆

Originally posted by StealthRanger
No, not everything is going to be consistent, then again, nothing in fiction will ever be 100% consistent. Good enough for debating purposes? Well unless you have something better beyond "I don't like it so it's wrong", then yes it will be

Uh, I have cannon statements from the manga.

A meteor that will destroy "every city in the general area", is a small country level meteor, considering there are only 26 demonstrable cities in the one punch man world.

Saitama shrugged it off casually.

Much more reliable than "The author couldn't have made a single mistake or been unable to draw something that small, so it has to be this size", don't cha' think?

I mean, you yourself just said that nothing would be consistent.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
As for the "too damn bad"

That's just too damn bad.

Ikr, meaning you'll have to grin and bear it

Are you saying that Vegeta here was literally bigger than Namekian mountains?

Been there done that, no scan in fiction is going to be 100% consistent in terms of backgrounds

And nobody would pixel scale off that sonny boy

I literally can't think of a better example. Just like in Superman, when he "sneezed away a solar system", and Superman was bigger than the three asteroids he blew away, despite being right next to them.

1. Ever occured to you that PC Superman's range is just that far, and that's there's several dimensions in scans
2. Whih brings me back around to the whole "nothing in fiction will be 100% consistent

Statements DEFINE manga and narration DEFINES comics. If you weren't a crying three year old that just lost horribly, you'd realize that.

Depends on who the statements are from

As for quantifying actual feats, again, when you have not much else, how else do you get legit figures beyond eyeballing?

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Uh, I have cannon statements from the manga.

Good for you

A meteor that will destroy "every city in the general area", is a small country level meteor, considering there are only 26 demonstrable cities in the one punch man world.

First, define "general area". Second, a even country sized explosion (dependant on the country) would only be in the gigaton range at best

Saitama shrugged it off casually.

Good for him

Much more reliable than "The author couldn't have made a single mistake or been unable to draw something that small, so it has to be this size", don't cha' think?

Already covered the consistency shit

I mean, you yourself just said that nothing would be consistent.

Your point being, chuckles?

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Uh, is the Jyuubi?

"Saitama doesn't have firepower, just the ability to punch stuff really hard"

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Yea, Jewbi is Mach 24,000 as I already posted

He can only punch in the gigaton range. Means shit to a guy who can tank exatons

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Ikr, meaning you'll have to grin and bear it

Yes, grin because I'm right, and you're ridiculously wrong.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Been there done that, no scan in fiction is going to be 100% consistent in terms of backgrounds

And nobody would pixel scale off that sonny boy

Exactly, retard. That's the exact reason that pixel-scaling is completely unreliable, and stupid.

So how do you know what you can pixel scale off of, huh "sonny boy"? Exactly. You don't, because authors don't draw to scale.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
1. Ever occured to you that PC Superman's range is just that far, and that's there's several dimensions in scans
2. Whih brings me back around to the whole "nothing in fiction will be 100% consistent

1. You're literally disproving my point by disproving your own point. You don't know what dimensions are in scans, yet you think you can scale them accurately from the different pixel lengths? That's just silly.

2. Which brings me back to the whole "because nothing is consistent other than statements or demonstrable feats, you can't pixel scale with any kind of accuracy" thing. 👆

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Depends on who the statements are from

As for quantifying actual feats, again, when you have not much else, how else do you get legit figures beyond eyeballing?

Yep.

The same way everyone else does. Feats, statements, authors word, and author approved/written literature.

BTW, making your text bold through entire sentences and paragraphs makes you look retarded, so let's not do that again.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Good for you

First, define "general area". Second, a even country sized explosion (dependant on the country) would only be in the gigaton range at best

Good for him

Already covered the consistency shit

Your point being, chuckles?

My point being that you literally just admitted everything I said was correct. Do you even know what you're debating?

Also, stop the "bolding your whole comment" thing. It's dumb.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Means shit to a guy who can tank exatons

He can only tank exatons if you don't have common sense and rely on horrendously flawed physics.

I mean look at this shit:

KE = 0.5*m*v^2 = 0.5*20575085032761093*25786^2 = 6840370096248046876055514 J

cross-section area of rock (ellipse) = pi*A*B = pi*(38750/2)*(19380/2) = 589814385.75 m^2

J/m^2 = 6840370096248046876055514 / 589814385.75 = 11597496197977478.5 J/m^2

explosion (dome) surface area = 2*pi*r^2 = 2*pi*(1300000/2)^2 = 2654645792283 m^2

Total yield = 2654645792283*11597496197977478.5 = 30787244482979003634823098415 J = 7.4 Exaton

😂

That's the big important part of the "calc" and it is laughably flawed. Heck, even someone with no understanding of physics could realize the error he made here if they thought about it for a bit.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Yea, Jewbi is Mach 24,000 as I already posted

He can only punch in the gigaton range. Means shit to a guy who can tank exatons

Based on? lol

Do you even know what an exaton is?