Batman vs McClane

Started by Silent Master10 pages
Originally posted by FrothByte
I know how you feel.

Unlike quan, you're not basing your opinion on butt hurt, so you have no reason to worry.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Unlike quan, you're not basing your opinion on butt hurt, so you have no reason to worry.

Unlike you who bases yours solely off what everyone else's majority opinion.

Originally posted by Robtard
There's nothing wrong with saying who you think wins, since you're both not choosing based on butthurt. You happen to be incorrect though.

As with all McDebates we have, I'm just going to agree to disagree.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Unlike quan, you're not basing your opinion on butt hurt, so you have no reason to worry.

Lol, Oh wait he was not even talking to you, do you know common courtesies and graces of a proper conversation?

Keep it up VI 😂

are you following people who dont think BM can win or something?

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
are you following people who dont think BM can win or something?

I'm a watcher, I see everything.

you see you never got any less creepier saying that

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
you see you never got any less creepier saying that

Says the creep guy on the internet talking to me who thinks saying flying the french flag is racist 😆 😆

Cause this isn't creepy at all

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
Santa Clause's eyes observe more than
billion children each, existing
simultaneously at every point on this planet.
With a mind of such abominable vastness
that to gaze within is to invite madness, the
Father of Christmas sees all, records and
judges every deed, and perches like a
nightmarish vulture upon the border
between the world of dreams and the world
of consciousness.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Says the creep guy on the internet talking to me who thinks saying flying the french flag is racist 😆 😆

accusing someone of racism makes me a creep? eh?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Cause this isn't creepy at all

so you searched my profile as well? eh? you're not coming off any less of a creep

what else i have in my profile

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
They say necessity is the mother of invention.
What they neglect to mention is that
invention's dad is a moron and he sometimes
pops by the house with a new piece of shit
idea that's so staggeringly awful that he takes
your silent awe as approval when in fact you're
trying to think of a new way to say "What the
****?" that is at once louder and more vulgar,
and somehow requires the assistance of noted
scholars and theologians.

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
No one wants to hear about my unpublished
novel that I am highly unlikely to ever
publish. But I still want to tell them about
it, so too bad! Let me tell you about
Eshahn...

1: Humans. In the world of Eshahn humans
were created from the essence of air. They
are divided into three varieties: Sun, Moon,
and Stars and have different magical traits
tied to the heavens (Sun Humans are very
resistant to fire, Moon Humans have more
powerful magic as the phases of the moon
affect them, Star humans have little
problem operating at night, etc). Overall
humans are the most numerous race,
considered average because of numbers
more than anything else, but seldom the
most powerful. Their short lifespans make it
very hard to compete with the longer lived
races, though powerful human wizards are
movers and shakers with the rest of them.
Overall, humans are as varied as they are in
real life.

2: Irrelevant Bestial Hordes. Huh, the most
common race, and the usual one for foot
soldiers in the present time, is humans. In
Eshahn the huge groups of mooks that can
be slaughtered without remorse are undead,
or possibly summoned creatures, or bugs,
or golems/robots. Orcs are their own race,
who were originally designed as shock
troops and bio-engineered from dwarves
primarily. They have a well deserved
reputation for being violent, but individual
orcs can be reasonable and intelligent.
Mostly their surrent problems stem from
being a warrior race without any real wars
to fight, and finding themselves increasingly
replaces by more reliable human soldiers
when there are wars.

3: Goblins. If orcs were bio-engineered
from dwarves to be shock troops, goblins
were bio-engineered from elves to be spies,
saboteurs, scouts, and special agents. They
look like elven children, mostly because
they are very short. Because their whole
deal is adaptability (a skill engineered into
them for the above purposes), they have
adapted to current conditions spectacularly.
The second most common race after
humans, no one dislikes them. They are
usually servants though, which some of
them are content with, most wildly pleased
with, and a small number resent. Goblins
are occasionally mischevious, and often
suicidallly confident though, giving them a
reputation for very poor judgment. Goblins
win Darwin awards daily.

2: Dwarves. A matriarchal society with a
population that is three males to every
female. Dwarves are short, though not so
much as goblins, and powerful. The men are
super hairy testosterone driven macho
warriors with no libido to speak of, and the
women are extremely lustful and curvaceous
beauties who rule their, sometimes multiple,
husband with iron hands. Dwarves vary in
personality despite the stereotypes, some of
them are farmers, and some are hippies at
one with nature, but they are created from
earth and heavily linked to it. They have a
tendency to build pointlessly large mega
monuments and horrific doomsday weapons
for no discernible reason though.

1: Elves. The most powerful group in Eshahn
throughout history, they are simultaneously
really really good at ruling and
cataclysmically bad at it. With twelve tribes
total, there are a lot of varieties of elves,
and most of them have complicated racial
relations with the others that makes the
elven groups a mass of politicking.
Supernaturally good at most things and the
longest lived, most other races are little
threat to their power but they are very
good threats to their own. They repeatedly
built civilization to dizzying heights only to
crash it down again in another apocalypse,
and humans slip in the power gaps to rule
instead, but the elves always come back.
They are overwhelmingly a female race,
most groups have five women to every man,
and practice polygamy. They range from
typical hippies (Brown Elves) to necromancy
obsessed death cults (Black Elves) to
industrial minded conquerors (Red elves) to
religious extremists who mix intolerance
with infuriatingly genuine moral superiority
(White Elves).
And I apologize. Hopefully no one reads all
this.

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
accusing someone of racism makes me a creep? eh?

so you searched my profile as well? eh?

Your about as smart as 5th grader. 😆

The last part, I apologize, I hope not one reads this. Dear God thats funny.

Batman

Originally posted by Robtard
This is a street fight, so he can't be BFR'd here. You didn't even read the OP, just saw "McClane" and ranted that he loses due to old McButthurt. You failed again 🙂
I never said he was bfr'd here I said he lost in the movie there. How can you be so simple.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Well I think it's a pretty close fight. Against most skilled fighters I usually say Batman loses, but in this case I do consider his skill as higher than McClane, simply because McClane to me is more an ultra-tough brawler instead of a skilled fighter.

It can go either way, but I put just a bit more weight on Bat's skill (such as it is) over McClane's durability.

How could it go either way? It's either a win or a lose. McClane runs with extreme luck, guns, many environmental factors that he has been able to take advantage of, and other circumstances behind some of his feats. When he has been shown to go up against highly trained characters on a individual basis without gaining an environmental advantage, his luck runs out and shows he can go down.

Originally posted by Robtard
This is a street fight, so he can't be BFR'd here. You didn't even read the OP, just saw "McClane" and ranted that he loses due to old McButthurt. You failed again 🙂
I never said he'd lose to a bfr here I said he lost in the film due to a bfr to a bum. Batman breaks this bum. It isn't even close. McClane's own son disrespects him.

Batman will rather easily beat the shit out of McClane. The problem is knocking him out. I honestly don't know if he's ever been KO'd in the movies.

If they were bloodlusted, Batman could kill McClane, but they're not, so he won't.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said he was bfr'd here I said he lost in the movie there. How can you be so simple.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said he'd lose to a bfr here I said he lost in the film due to a bfr to a bum. Batman breaks this bum. It isn't even close. McClane's own son disrespects him.

You're so angry you replied twice to my post in 40 minutes and you failed not once, but two times. Are you capable of not failing?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Batman will rather easily beat the shit out of McClane. The problem is knocking him out. I honestly don't know if he's ever been KO'd in the movies.

If they were bloodlusted, Batman could kill McClane, but they're not, so he won't.

McClane's never been knocked out in five films despite talking hits that would kill a normal man.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
How could it go either way? It's either a win or a lose. McClane runs with extreme luck, guns, many environmental factors that he has been able to take advantage of, and other circumstances behind some of his feats. When he has been shown to go up against highly trained characters on a individual basis without gaining an environmental advantage, his luck runs out and shows he can go down.

👆

Also, many of his opponents suffer massive PIS. I'm watching Die Hard right now on AMC. McClane is definitely a badass, but also clearly more reliant on luck, rather than having some Bourne-esque commando skillset. He'll get KOed eventually. Considering that a bullet to the shoulder put him on the ground immediately, he's clearly not invincible (true he did take a second shot, but if not for EMS, it would have been fatal). I'm not saying he doesn't have an extremely high pain tolerance, but without any higher skills behind that, all that makes him is a long-term punching bag that will eventually bust. The notion that he can beat Bryan Mills, Jack Reacher, etc. is nonsense. Any one of them could beat his ass or pull off the shots he made. Like I said, McClane's a badass, but a badass reliant almost entirely on a high pain tolerance, ingenuity, and luck (at least in CQB. He's a beast marksman, although I'm sure some of more OTT cinematic action heroes could pull off the same shots and smart enough to get out of McClane's tribulations).

And there's no way in hell he's lasting more that 10, 15 minutes tops before Batman punches him in the face enough times to KO him.

Originally posted by Lestov16

And there's no way in hell he's lasting more that 10, 15 minutes tops before Batman punches him in the face enough times to KO him.

So you think Batman punches harder than a large merc-type man hitting you in the face with the butt of a rifle while you can't defend yourself at all?

I'm not asking to argue with you, as you said above. Just curious.