Revan runs the Obi-Wan Gauntlet

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Meetra also had this power, and Nyriss still socked her. I again doubt that his precog is so much better than Tyranus's that it can make up for his inferiority as a swordsman.

Meetra has that power, but even shown by the Handmaiden, it is no where close to the likes of Revan, who can anticipate the likes months ahead. Revan precognition is unbelievable.
Dooku's Makashi is an incredibly "by the book" type of form, something someone like Revan dreams to face against, despite Dooku's prowess. Combine Revan's force abilities, and he takes Dooku. Must I mention Makashi is heavily based on footwork, and Revan has numerous powers (lightning, force lightning storms, etc) that can make such footwork poor/off balanced as he duels Dooku?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
[B]Meetra has that power, but even shown by the Handmaiden, it is no where close to the likes of Revan, who can anticipate the likes months ahead. Revan precognition is unbelievable.

So, if he saw every move Vitiate made a month before it happened, he should have have dodged all of his spam attacks, and defeated him with ridiculous ease.

It's obvious hyperbole that doesn't really make any sense. I think a better comparison would be the battle precog of Raskta Lsu, which was rather impressive as well upon re-reading the text.

Vitiate is renowned as one who is fantastic at mental infiltration, add in his dark side presence, the demanding outcome of the plot, and Drew's awful writing, you will see your answer on why.

Revan drops a meteor on them all.

/thread.

Dooku will swat it away with his cane

Pimp cane?

How else do you think he kept Savage check?

No matter the thread, it seems like *someone* is trying to low-ball Dooku and/or Makashi. Ridic.

Shock collar.

Originally posted by Galan007
*someone*

Its not me.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
So I will do this in order of strength

1. Grievous (ROTS)
2. Maul (TPM)
3. Darth Vader (ANH)
4. Anakin Skywalker (ROTS)
5. Darth Tyranus (ROTS)

❌

Originally posted by Galan007
No matter the thread, it seems like *someone* is trying to low-ball Dooku and/or Makashi. Ridic.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66

It particularly irks me when these same people act as though Makashi -the single best saber-to-saber form of combat in existence- is relatively easy to overcome. It isn't. People tend to cling to the "week aganst kynetik energeh!@!!" statement as though it supersedes the plethora of Dooku's(and by proxy: Makashi's) showings to the contrary. It doesn't. Hell, Sourcebooks/novels have also stated that Makashi can't defend well against blaster bolts. However, the effortlessness in which Dooku can deflect the aforementioned would certainly paint an entirely different picture of the form.

/rant 🙂

Originally posted by Stealth Moose

I definitely hear you. Regarding technical ability, Dooku is the best duelist in the entire mythos, but that's because his stand-in was a master swordsman.

It isn't really the best saber form IIRC, it has its weakness and while Dooku was an incredible fighter he still succumbed to the weaknesses of the style i,e being driven to the ground by power based attacks. He never really ever had the offensive power of his contemporaries either, he just defended and countered and brought them down in that fashion.

Originally posted by Galan007
Lol, t'was a general "someone". It just seems like people are very quick to downplay Dooku/Makashi without considering the facts: Dooku is one of the single most powerful Force-users the Jedi/Sith have ever produced. Moreover, he is also one of the most skilled swordsmen in galactic history.

It particularly irks me when these same people act as though Makashi -the single best saber-to-saber form of combat in existence- is relatively easy to overcome. It isn't. People tend to cling to the "week aganst kynetik energeh!@!!" statement as though it supersedes the plethora of Dooku's(and by proxy: Makashi's) showings to the contrary. It doesn't. Hell, Sourcebooks/novels have also stated that Makashi can't defend well against blaster bolts. However, the effortlessness in which Dooku can deflect the aforementioned would certainly paint an entirely different picture of the form.

/rant 🙂

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
I definitely hear you. Regarding technical ability, Dooku is the best duelist in the entire mythos, but that's because his stand-in was a master swordsman.

Originally posted by carthage
It isn't really the best saber form IIRC

Fightsaber:

Essential Guide:

Originally posted by Stealth Moose

Basically, Makashi isn't the apex of saber combat because Gilliard didn't know forms existed and Stover is a bad writer.

Originally posted by Galan007

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Basically, Makashi isn't the apex of saber combat because Gilliard didn't know forms existed and Stover is a bad writer.