Revan runs the Obi-Wan Gauntlet

Started by The_Tempest4 pages
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Stover is a bad writer.

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Stover is awesome.

My only issue with the RotS novelization is that it has huge inconsistencies with the film, which irritates me. However, he has still produced some of the best reads in existence. 👆

The prevailing theory is that Moose is perturbed by the fact that Stover is wanking PT characters; if Stover were to write a TOTJ/KotOR/TOR-era novel and wank those characters to the same extent, the Moose would be orgasmic.

Anyway, Stover is excellent and the ROTS novel was based on an earlier interpretation of the script. Not to mention he was given enormous latitude by Lucas to tell an appropriate companion piece.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
The prevailing theory is that Moose is perturbed by the fact that Stover is wanking PT characters; if Stover were to write a TOTJ/KotOR/TOR-era novel and wank those characters to the same extent, the Moose would be orgasmic.

Anyway, Stover is excellent and the ROTS novel was based on an earlier interpretation of the script. Not to mention he was given enormous latitude by Lucas to tell an appropriate companion piece.

Actually, I'm bothered by how poor the RotS novelisation is compared to the final form of the movie, how much hyperbole it delves in, and how bad it is compared to Shatterpoint, which was really good.

If I was upset because it hurts my bias, that would be dumb, because apparently Stover!Dooku can use the universe to hurl chairs and therefore he wins every time unless someone swings at him really really hard.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Actually, I'm bothered by how poor the RotS novelisation is compared to the final form of the movie, how much hyperbole it delves in, and how bad it is compared to Shatterpoint, which was really good.

Stover's hardly flawless and I do share, to some extent, your dislike of his liberal use of purple prose. That said, I do think a great deal of your umbrage comes from the fact that he's very generous to characters like Sidious, Mace, Dooku, etc.

You certainly don't express similar outrage when non-movie characters are hilariously wanked. Cf. Karpyshyn's Bane.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
If I was upset because it hurts my bias, that would be dumb, because apparently Stover!Dooku can use the universe to hurl chairs and therefore he wins every time unless someone swings at him really really hard.

Stover's biggest misfire with Dooku was turning him into a raging bigot. The rest is acceptable.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Actually, I'm bothered by how poor the RotS novelisation is

wut

In all fairness to Dooku, that chair looked heavy as phuck. 👆

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Stover's hardly flawless and I do share, to some extent, your dislike of his liberal use of purple prose. That said, I do think a great deal of your umbrage comes from the fact that he's very generous to characters like Sidious, Mace, Dooku, etc.

You certainly don't express similar outrage when non-movie characters are hilariously wanked. Cf. Karpyshyn's Bane.

Stover's biggest misfire with Dooku was turning him into a raging bigot. The rest is acceptable.

Actually, I didn't yet read Bane; I have read Stover's works. So my experience is limited. I've been very candid with how terrible I think Revan is, even though Nyriss is OP, Vitiate has some showings, and Revan is some kind of Daoism Force God with the mind of a sit-com dad.

Comparatively, Drew's ME novels are awesome.

I don't care for the Dooku-bigot angle either. It doesn't jive well with his characterisation as Yoda's brightest fallen pupil and seems to be inconsistent with other EU/movie showings. Dark Rendezvous, on the other hand, handles their relationship beautifully.

Originally posted by Nephthys
wut

Specifically, it's full of purple prose nonsense, hyperbole, and anything pertaining to action (which is really all we talk about here) is painfully inaccurate.

Originally posted by Galan007
In all fairness to Dooku, that chair looked heavy as phuck. 👆

Serenno marble.

It was almost certainly reinforced with Serenno rebar to boot. Likely had the density of a white dwarf or two. 👆

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Specifically, it's full of purple prose nonsense, hyperbole, and anything pertaining to action (which is really all we talk about here) is painfully inaccurate.

The purple prose and hyperbole is what makes it so enjoyable to read. We just roll our eyes because its so hard to analyse for these discussions. The fight scenes are ****ing awesome though.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The purple prose and hyperbole is what makes it so enjoyable to read. We just roll our eyes because its so hard to analyse for these discussions. The fight scenes are ****ing awesome though.

Alright, let me rephrase:

It is fun to read.

It is horrific to analyze.

There.

It's a good read when you remove it almost entirely from the context of the film. Imo, if a novel is adapted from a film(or vice versa) the works should line-up with one another for the most part. In this case, they really don't. That's why I find the novel irritating.

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Fun fact- I read the ANH novelisation before the THX remastered version came out, and it accurately showed the cut content added in said version.

Still, the best Star Wars book remains Dark Rendezvous.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
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Fun fact- I read the ANH novelisation before the THX remastered version came out, and it accurately showed the cut content added in said version.

Did the novel accurately depict Hamill's b*tchmade tone and overall demeanor? If not, it won't line-up with the film. 👇

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Still, the best Star Wars book remains Dark Rendezvous.
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On a different note, has anyone here read FotJ: Apocalypse? It seems fun/action packed, and evidently incorporates bits from TCW, so I considered buying it. Worth while? Also, I've not read any of the FotJ novels--would they be required reading before I delve into Apocalypse?

Have you seen Mark Hamill lately? He looks old.

Yeah, really let himself go after he collapsed the Empire. mmm

Originally posted by Galan007
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On a different note, has anyone here read FotJ: Apocalypse? It seems fun/action packed, and evidently incorporates bits from TCW, so I considered buying it. Worth while? Also, I've not read any of the FotJ novels--would they be required reading before I delve into Apocalypse?

I've read it; it's awful, absolutely awful. And yes, the other books are essential to the series.

Originally posted by Galan007

Yeah, really let himself go after he collapsed the Empire. mmm

The war broke him.