Ultron 616 vs Itachi Uchiha

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Wow Ultron is being underrated here, Ultron is physically stronger than Thor who is able to planet bust and has the raw blasting power to drop Hulk or even kill him. These guys have survived hits from way past planetary strength characters.

also the seal is a soul seal, so yeah Ultron doesnt have one of those.

Forgive me, as I am a little ignorant of Ultron's feats, but WHEN has he been stronger than Thor? I don't remember that, but if it did happen, it definitely wasn't one of Thor's powerful versions, like Rune King.

So tell me why it was able to seal Orochimaru's sword of Kusanagi? Last time I checked, swords didn't have souls either, but they could be sealed just fine.

Amaterasu might win it for Itachi

That was an old version of Ultron, modern versions have a forcefield protecting their insides.

Originally posted by Bentley
That was an old version of Ultron, modern versions have a forcefield protecting their insides.

Yeah, and current Itachi has Totsuka blade to slice through them like butter.

SSJGogeta, be quiet. You're making me want to argue against King Itachi, one of the deadly sins, to defend King Ultron because ignorant you are of him.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Meh, Itachi's destructive capabilities are much higher than any of those demonstrated by the Avengers, as well as his durability because of the Yata mirror.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Show me the Avengers tanking moon busting attacks or dishing them out.

Jesus Christ I didn't see that first quote...

...I approve.

I second that. Motion carried!

It's the same thing as Dragonball era Tien beating Jackie Chun making him x times more powerful than a moon buster! (Despite the kamehameha wave not being indicative of actual power)

And thus making him supremely more powerful than Dressrosa Colosseum arc Luffy. Faster, stronger, more durable, and with light speed reaction time.

Originally posted by KingD19
It's the same thing as Dragonball era Tien beating Jackie Chun making him x times more powerful than a moon buster! (Despite the kamehameha wave not being indicative of actual power)

And thus making him supremely more powerful than Dressrosa Colosseum arc Luffy. Faster, stronger, more durable, and with light speed reaction time.

I'm not sure what you're implying here.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
I'm not sure what you're implying here.

Gogeta doesn't know what he's talking about.

Look at the Tien v Luffy thread.

I can't speak on Luffy, but I think I see your point.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Jesus Christ I didn't see that first quote...

...I approve.

Had he said Solo King Itachi > Avengers, it would have been acceptable. 👆

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Had he said Solo King Itachi > Avengers, it would have been acceptable. 👆

Very true. I rule against Gogeta then.

As punishment, you will the next 72 hours without access to any manifestation of Dragon Ball.

Originally posted by KingD19
Gogeta doesn't know what he's talking about.

Look at the Tien v Luffy thread.

I'm actually not sure what you're getting at here.

You acknowledge that Roshi can moon bust, and that he can bat away, or dodge similar attacks that can travel light speed+ to reach the moon in less than 1/5th of a second(because Roshi and Krillin exchanged in this amount of time, and Roshi's kamehameha outran Goku's great ape fist), yet you somehow think that even with that proof of MONSTROUSLY superior firepower, physical power, and even speed, Luffy could somehow manage to beat Roshi? Makes me question who doesn't know what they're talking about here. Quite possibly the one suggesting the equivalent of Spiderman being able to defeat Thor.

The thread I, along with everyone else on there have been craping on you in? If I were you, I wouldn't advertise that embarrassment so much, but whatever, you call Luffy light speed all you want, and call mountain busters stronger than moon busters, but either way, don't say I'm ignorant of the subject when you're saying 2 + 2 = 78.

Originally posted by Damborgson
SSJGogeta, be quiet. You're making me want to argue against King Itachi, one of the deadly sins, to defend King Ultron because ignorant you are of him.

Well, that's what I'm going for. Or just getting anyone to show me a feat that proves superiority.

Which, for some reason, even though I've admitted to not being completely knowledgable of his feats, no one has done yet. This leads me to believe that yeah, Itachi would win.

Especially since the best argument so far was about force fields or some shit.

Only because you are absolutely ignorant about the characters. As such, I have absolutely no clue how you can say Itachi wins. I mean, Christ, Thor and Hulk's blows are so powerful the shock waves (!) from them shatter planets.

Originally posted by ares834
Only because you are absolutely ignorant about the characters. As such, I have absolutely no clue how you can say Itachi wins. I mean, Christ, Thor and Hulk's blows are so powerful the shock waves (!) from them shatter planets.

1. So you don't know why I can ask a question when I don't know something? Read a book.

2. Thor and Hulk have nothing to do with this. Read the thread title, the Avengers have nothing to do with this. This is Ultron. Plus, in case you're referring to what pym-ftw said, Thor is vastly stronger than Ultron, just look at the scan Igniz gave.

3. Lastly, Ultron still doesn't have any defense against the Totsuka blade seal, which from what I've seen, he can't dodge or block.

1. No. I'm wondering how you can form an opinion on the thread when you admit to being ignorant of what Ultron brings.

2. I was commenting on your claim that Itachi is more destructive than any of the Avengers... And considering Ultron has taken on the Avengers, yes they are relevant to the thread. (BTW, Pym-ftw claimed that Ultron is stronger than Thor and Igniz's scan is from an old and weaker version of Ultron.)

3. Which, IIRC, requires the sword to pierce the target. And considering Ultron's durability that's not happening.

Originally posted by ares834
1. No. I'm wondering how you can form an opinion on the thread when you admit to being ignorant of what Ultron brings.

2. I was commenting on your claim that Itachi is more destructive than any of the Avengers... And considering Ultron has taken on the Avengers, yes they are relevant to the thread. (BTW, Pym-ftw claimed that Ultron is stronger than Thor and Igniz's scan is from an old and weaker version of Ultron.)

3. Which, IIRC, requires the sword to pierce the target. And considering Ultron's durability that's not happening.

1. I'm not completely ignorant. As far as I've seen though, his feats still show him losing to Itachi. If not, then show some phucking scans.

2. And from most versions of them, he is. The avengers aren't that strong when first formed, Captain America being able to block strikes from Thor, and Iron man taking him on evenly. Itachi would beat most of them outside of their respective comic series.

3. So show a durability feat that surpasses the moon+ durability that Itachi has cut through with it. You know, how Nagato had tanked biju bombs, could use Almight push as a mountain range level force-field, and was able to tank even massive rasengans and a small moon+ level attack without being visibly hurt.