Originally posted by BloodRain
Cap can only block a strike from Thor because of that Shield.Also where are you getting moon level from? The only noon feat came from Hagbeard with Juubi, no one below him could.
And? He still can withstand the force, or his arm would shatter, no matter how strong adamantium is.
Nice try at being funny, anus-wart, but "Hag-beard" CREATED the moon on his deathbed. Itachi destroyed the small one Nagato created, with the help of Naruto and Killer Bee. Not to mention he blocked said moon level explosion CASUALLY with the Yata mirror, and then broke through Nagato's moon level shinra tensei guard.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
And? He still can withstand the force, or his arm would shatter, no matter how strong adamantium is.Nice try at being funny, anus-wart, but "Hag-beard" CREATED the moon on his deathbed. Itachi destroyed the small one Nagato created, with the help of Naruto and Killer Bee. Not to mention he blocked said moon level explosion CASUALLY with the Yata mirror, and then broke through Nagato's moon level shinra tensei guard.
That was nothing like an actual moon and Itachi didn't destroy Chibaku Tensei alone. Try again.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Vibranium absords kinetic energy and well vibrations. Cap's shield is made out of the stuff or did you not know that.That was nothing like an actual moon and Itachi didn't destroy Chibaku Tensei alone. Try again.
Exactly. It, however, doesn't magically absorb force. Which is why Serpent ripped it in half. Try again.
Except it was, dwarfing the mountain range around it, and Itachi had the physical advantage on the two who assisted him, as demonstrated by him doing what I just previously said. Unless you want to say that three biju bombs are moon level. Try again.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Exactly. It, however, doesn't magically absorb force. Which is why Serpent ripped it in half. Try again.Except it was, dwarfing the mountain range around it, and Itachi had the physical advantage on the two who assisted him, as demonstrated by him doing what I just previously said. Unless you want to say that three biju bombs are moon level. Try again.
That still doesn't match an actual moon. That wasn't entirely Itachi's feat anyway so I really don't know why you're using it. Also the way they destroyed Chibaku Tensei was by aiming at its core, they didn't just outright bust it. Stop giving Itachi feats he doesn't have.
Beings of immense power have broken the shield, usually through molecular manipulation or simply being more powerful than the bonds holding it together.
Serpent is Odin+ at the point he destroyed the shield, so it's not a surprise that he surpassed what it was capable of withstanding.
But Pac Man(because your name is long and I don't feel like copying) is right. It absorbs kinetic energy from impact, and force as well since kinetic energy and force are pretty much interchangeable.
Serpent was just beyond what it could handle, as Vibrainum has a threshold and has been overloaded before. And even though it's got Adamantium in it as well, it's no surprise Odin's big brother could overcome that as well.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
And? He still can withstand the force, or his arm would shatter, no matter how strong adamantium is.Nice try at being funny, anus-wart, but "Hag-beard" CREATED the moon on his deathbed. Itachi destroyed the small one Nagato created, with the help of Naruto and Killer Bee. Not to mention he blocked said moon level explosion CASUALLY with the Yata mirror, and then broke through Nagato's moon level shinra tensei guard.
..anus wart? What are we 12? (Don't know if you are so that might come off as pure labeling). Okay now look at your own words: . Itachi destroyed the small one Nagato created, with the help of Naruto and Killer Bee.
Now what was the 'moon' that Nagato formed? A huge rock not even only Town sized in mass. IIIC that one was similar in size to the first one from Pain, which was formed from the rock/mass of the Leaf village.
CT was calc'd to be 4km in diameter, which makes it's volume 0.000000153% that of the real Earth moon. While it may be closer to the 'moon' size (smallest around is 11km) it's not considered moon level in DC terms. Itachi would at best be mountain level.
Originally posted by SSJGGogetayou know we have respect threads right? Ultron has one shot Thor and processes information at near light speed, Itachi dies again.
1. So you don't know why I can ask a question when I don't know something? Read a book.2. Thor and Hulk have nothing to do with this. Read the thread title, the Avengers have nothing to do with this. This is Ultron. Plus, in case you're referring to what pym-ftw said, Thor is vastly stronger than Ultron, just look at the scan Igniz gave.
3. Lastly, Ultron still doesn't have any defense against the Totsuka blade seal, which from what I've seen, he can't dodge or block.
Originally posted by BloodRainBased on nerfed Edo Tensei Itachi? And his incomplete Susano'o negated lightning that destroyed a mountain (and lightning doesn't make rocks explode like a bomb, so..).
Itachi would at best be mountain level.
Anyway, this is not even a fair fight even disregarding a good Ultron's much superior DC and strength. Itachi can't even use his main abilities. :/
Originally posted by pym-ftw
you know we have respect threads right? Ultron has one shot Thor and processes information at near light speed, Itachi dies again.
Yeah.
Really? Mind showing a scan? I haven't seen much of Ultron, but that feat would be pretty impressive I guess. Even though I've been arguing from the start that I'm not saying Itachi is physically stronger than Ultron. Just like he's not stronger than Tsunade, but could crush her.
Itachi had reaction and movement speed above the tag team of Naruto and Killer Bee, being able to casually beat Nagato while saving them. Killer Bee and Naruto tag team is faster than Raikage, meaning they have light speed+ reaction time, and Itachi is above that even.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Lol. Even if we took that as fact which is as dubious as Kakashi cutting lightning his "synapses fire at the speed of light" doesn't equate to him being able to react to stimulus at light speed or even move at lightspeed.
Synapses firing at light speed = Being able to take in information at light speed.
In other words, he can react to things at light speed.
Well, either way, Kakashi was stated by a reliable character to have cut lightning, as Raikage is to have light speed reaction. You can doubt the statements all you want, but they are cannon, and you have nothing to disprove them.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Yeah, that would be true.If you knew what a hyperbole was.
Statement given by reliable characters that are inputting their knowledge on things they have witnessed =/= "Hyperbolic claim".
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What makes it so "reliable"? You can't except me to simply take their word for it. Perhaps, something more definitive? (I.e. pinpointing the movement of actual light, covering the distance of the sun from Earth in under ten minutes, etc.) Something besides "because they said so" would give me more than something to simply laugh at. haermm
The guys backing Luffy against Tien were lolworthy, but they have a better argument than you have here simply because there's actually something to look at. It's no less discreditable, but their claims at least make sense and are based on something tangible.
Either way, it's of such little consequence here.
Originally posted by Sacred 117
What makes it so "reliable"? You can't except me to simply take their word for it. Perhaps, something more definitive? (I.e. pinpointing the movement of actual light, covering the distance of the sun from Earth in under ten minutes, etc.) Something besides "because they said so" would give me more than something to simply laugh at. haermmThe guys backing Luffy against Tien were lolworthy, but they have a better argument than you have here simply because there's actually something to look at. It's no less discreditable, but their claims at least make sense and are based on something tangible.
Either way, it's of such little consequence here.
Okay, the Superman can't lift 200 quintillion tons, can't fly 10 times faster than light, Goku can't teleport instantly, can't overpower reality warpers and multiverse busters, and TOAA isn't god, simply because none of them have feats beyond statement.
GTFO. The author wouldn't have made the characters invoke those statements, had they not been true.
Something to look at? What about Kid Goku lifting mutli-ton boulders as an untrained child, Tien overpowering the blasts of moon busting characters(that have busted the moon, since you need something to look at), and outrunning literal flashes of light? All of those should be enough of "something to look at".
You're downplaying feats because you don't want to accept them, and it's just making you look as dumb as the guy claiming all yellow beams in fiction are light speed.
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You do realize you made that argument in the Sesshoumaru thread...
Originally posted by SSJGGogetaprove that character can see light speed characters or else it's hyperbole.
Yeah, that would be true.If you knew what a hyperbole was.
Statement given by reliable characters that are inputting their knowledge on things they have witnessed =/= "Hyperbolic claim".
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