LMFAO What? Final Crisis was one of the biggest events of the 2000's in DC, That was the story that sent Bruce Wayne back to the stone age, that was the event that set up one of the last Justice League stories before the New 52 hit.
Jesus Christ, sorry dude I don't talk to stupid people. Welcome to ignore.
Originally posted by God Cloth Seiyalol
Been reading comics for several years now. Final crisis I believe is non canon.Your also lowballing wanda
Darkseid in Final Crisis was tearing down the multiverse with his death throes.
He was an abstract in terms of power within FC, a living embodiment of tyranny.
Calm down.
Originally posted by TheTyrantYou mean besides the fact that he's popping planets like balloons? Darkseid was able to own Superman, Green Lantern, Flash. Wonder Woman, Aquaman and Batman, they couldn't beat him so they had to BFR him via boom tube.
Current Darkseid as in New 52? I read Justice League and didn't see him do anything that would touch Imperative Thanos. Let's see some feats to prove your claim.
New 52 Superman is also a world bencher btw
Mean while in Avengers Assembled Thanos got manhandled by the Avengers and Guardians of the Galaxy, and the only powerful members on that team were Thor, Rulk and Hulk. Even Groot was taking it to him.
Darkseid's power flucates more than Thanos does. There are times when Thanos could win but right now he loses.
After the next Infinity arc, this could change though.
You're using a low-end Thanos and they only beat him because of the Elders of the Universe. If you read the comic, Thanos even said that he was about to wreck their sht just before the Elders came. Also, your team has 4 heavy-hitters while the ones who fought Thanos had 3 so there really isn't that much of a big difference even though you're using a poorly-written Thanos.
The team that Lord Mar-Vell utterly wrecked in the Thanos Imperative would be all-around superior to the one who Darkseid fought. Thanos later proceeded to absolutely fodderize Lord Mar-Vell. Thanos has beat the likes of The Maker and has also held his own against Death Walker. Hell, his corpse was left unscathed after taking Galactus' galaxy wiping AoE blast in Annihilation. So tell me how Darkseid fighting against 4 herald-level characters stack up to those feats that I just specified.
Also Popping planets like balloons is not an impressive feat at all by any of the other three characters' standards so idk why you would even mention that...? Just for future reference: Saiyan Saga Vegeta was already a planet buster and Thanos on his first appearance destroyed a planet by fighting Drax h2h. 'Seid is the weak link, but he's lucky enough to have big brother Thanos pick up the slack.
Thanos no sold severely screams from Black Bolt, toke hammer and lightning to the face from Thor and handed Hulk his ass. I would say in current continuity they are closer then they have been both being somewhere around trans to low skyfather. But again if the threat from the Crime Syndicates universe turn out to be Darkseid, then Darkseid goes into a whole different tier imo.
Gladiator referred to The Maker as the most powerful being in the universe in an arc that involved Galactus, Tenebrous, and Aegis. Just some food for thought. Thanos is far above trans going by his performance against Lord Mar-Vell who is an actual trans-tier character. It was a totally one-sided fight tbh.
Thanos can stomp either Asura or Bills (or anyone from either verse). Mind**** and superior durability and whatnot
Also:
>Bills
>MFTL
>combat sped debate
>implying neither Thanos or Darkseid can tank star system busters
Originally posted by galactusischereBills has never shown faster than light speed. Even Flash was having trouble outrunning the Omega Beams, Bills isn't going to dodge them
Leaning towards team 1. Bills is massively massively faster than light and team two members only have good reaction speed rather than actual combat speed. Neither of them are going to walk away from a solar system busting blast either.
Asura on the other hand, may be able to solo.
Originally posted by TheTyrantNo they didn't, the Elders came AFTER Thanos lost the Cosmic Cube and got his ass beat. This isn't a low end showing, Thanos has never been very good against entire teams of heroes.
You're using a low-end Thanos and they only beat him because of the Elders of the Universe. If you read the comic, Thanos even said that he was about to wreck their sht just before the Elders came. Also, your team has 4 heavy-hitters while the ones who fought Thanos had 3 so there really isn't that much of a big difference even though you're using a poorly-written Thanos.The team that Lord Mar-Vell utterly wrecked in the Thanos Imperative would be all-around superior to the one who Darkseid fought. Thanos later proceeded to absolutely fodderize Lord Mar-Vell. Thanos has beat the likes of The Maker and has also held his own against Death Walker. Hell, his corpse was left unscathed after taking Galactus' galaxy wiping AoE blast in Annihilation. So tell me how Darkseid fighting against 4 herald-level characters stack up to those feats that I just specified.
Also Popping planets like balloons is not an impressive feat at all by any of the other three characters' standards so idk why you would even mention that...? Just for future reference: Saiyan Saga Vegeta was already a planet buster and Thanos on his first appearance destroyed a planet by fighting Drax h2h. 'Seid is the weak link, but he's lucky enough to have big brother Thanos pick up the slack.
Let me know when any of those characters can bench press the freaking Earth for 5 days, let me know when any of those characters have femtosecond reaction time.
None of those characters come close to the physical stats that Flash and Superman have. New 52 Superman and Flash would steamroll that team.
All Thanos managed to do was mind rape the Maker, earlier she freaking one shotted him and knocked his ass out.
Galactus didn't have a galaxy busting AOE attack either, it wiped out 3 solar systems. And it's an AOE attack it isn't concentrated so it's not a very impressive feat. Plus I'm pretty sure Nova survived it too.
Thanos and Drax busting a planet together is a DUAL FEAT. You need to show Thanos busting a planet by himself for him to be comparable.
Same goes for Surfer, the only time I've seen Surfer destroy a planet was when he fought Morg, another dual feat.
Not sure why you brought up Vegeta when he isn't in this fight, and he never busted a planet either, Arlia was filler and non canon.
If that's the best Thanos has then he's going down first against Asura. Maybe Darkseid will do the smart thing and leave while Thanos is getting sodomized.
Alright I just re-read Thanos Imperative on Marvel Digital Unlimited and there's some serious bullcrap being thrown around.
Thanos Imperative #4
Lord MarVell did NOT fight Quasar, Nova and Surfer at the same time. In fact Quasar never attacked him once. Nova attacked him, got beaten down, Surfer tried to drag him away and MarVell blasted him, and then he went to beating Nova's ass
90% of the fight, MarVell was exclusively fighting Nova.
Also MarVell wasn't alone, the Revengers were with him fighting the Annihilators.
Also, Thanos didn't fodderize MarVell, Death did. Although Thanos is more powerful than MarVell is, Marvell isn't that powerful to begin with.
Thanos fans are really scraping the bottom of the barrel
Originally posted by StealthRangerHow is he not MFTL? Whis and Bills traveled across millions of light years in a few minutes. Stop downplaying.
Thanos can stomp either Asura or Bills (or anyone from either verse). Mind**** and superior durability and whatnotAlso:
>Bills
>MFTL
>combat sped debate
>implying neither Thanos or Darkseid can tank star system busters
Originally posted by ZebusKing
No they didn't, the Elders came AFTER Thanos lost the Cosmic Cube and got his ass beat. This isn't a low end showing, Thanos has never been very good against entire teams of heroes.Let me know when any of those characters can bench press the freaking Earth for 5 days, let me know when any of those characters have femtosecond reaction time.
None of those characters come close to the physical stats that Flash and Superman have. New 52 Superman and Flash would steamroll that team.
All Thanos managed to do was mind rape the Maker, earlier she freaking one shotted him and knocked his ass out.
Galactus didn't have a galaxy busting AOE attack either, it wiped out 3 solar systems. And it's an AOE attack it isn't concentrated so it's not a very impressive feat. Plus I'm pretty sure Nova survived it too.
Thanos and Drax busting a planet together is a DUAL FEAT. You need to show Thanos busting a planet by himself for him to be comparable.
Same goes for Surfer, the only time I've seen Surfer destroy a planet was when he fought Morg, another dual feat.
Not sure why you brought up Vegeta when he isn't in this fight, and he never busted a planet either, Arlia was filler and non canon.
If that's the best Thanos has then he's going down first against Asura. Maybe Darkseid will do the smart thing and leave while Thanos is getting sodomized.
Galactus destroyed a galaxy actually. It was mentioned in Imperative.