Thor (Young) vs. Wonder Woman (DCnU)

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
If you say so. Personally, their respective encounters with Gorr makes it clear to me how the two compare. For example, Young Thor being too spent to even move after the final fight with Gorr while Avenger Thor climbs up from the center of a planet (Although he got pissed and took his eye at the end there).

It kind of does, but I like this one better:

Kind of? The guy fought the first Black Berserker for hours. Now he's just one shotting multiple of them. Pretty nifty stuff.

👆 I just posted another example in the respect thread.

Another feat for Young Thor that I never see mentioned. When he threw the unstable Star Matter at the God Bomb (Which is the size of a moon), it created an explosion so powerful, it literally blasted him off the planet and he was unhurt:

Out of curiosity Bran, where do you rank Gorr? Keep in mind that in the God of Thunder series, even the random and completely useless canon fodder Gods were all crazy powerful:

And have been working for centuries without rest, mining the center of planets and the cores of dead Stars.

It's too bad we didn't see more established Gods like Zeus or Mephisto among his victims.

I actually thought about bringing that up in our debate but then I didn't I guess for whatever reason. Only furthers my belief that he isn't really Thor's inferior, only lacks experience and Mjolnir. But meh. Young Thor was pretty crazy in that arc.

I rank Gorr above Odin. Maybe a little, maybe a lot. His problem is he is almost entirely physical in every way, but that doesn't seem to hinder things. Skyfather Venom.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Well, again, Young Thor spent that entire arc getting his ass kicked back to back without any rest at all. A lesser (Super)man would have never came out after the torture.
Honestly, go back and read that arc. All of that shit happens to Young Thor back to back. I'd like to see a Wonder Woman arc with that sort of damage soak.

Kind of? The guy fought the first Black Berserker for hours. Now he's just one shotting multiple of them. Pretty nifty stuff.

👆 I just posted another example in the respect thread.

Yeah, he definitely got his ass kicked more, but Avenger Thor was constantly in action as well, tracking the God Butcher and fighting his Berserkers. I don't think his stamina bar was more worn down or something though.

Thor's damage soak is straight up insane under Aaron:

No way. Wonder Woman was in critical condition and needed medical attention because she fought Artemis and the First Born in the same two days or something.

I saw that, nice job. 👆

Yeah, Young Thor is so much of a damage sponge that three attacks from Apocalypse were going to break his spine and kill him. Real damage sponge there.

And Diana got up from both her arms broken pretty soon.

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yeah, he definitely got his ass kicked more, but Avenger Thor was constantly in action as well, tracking the God Butcher and fighting his Berserkers. I don't think his stamina bar was more worn down or something though.

Thor's damage soak is straight up insane under Aaron:

No way. Wonder Woman was in critical condition and needed medical attention because she fought Artemis and the First Born in the same two days or something.

I saw that, nice job. 👆

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She'd get axed in the face before she ever served that type of damage of course.

"I say.. I do not need a liver.. To kill an elf!"

Aaron must have made it his mission to make stories that are so epic, people won't even remember embarrassing losses to the likes of Rulk ever happened.. 🙂

Yeah, I can't see Wonder Woman shrugging off the loss of a major internal organ.. She's tough, but not that tough.

Supermans another story... He did survive the loss of his heart against Emperor Joker, for one..

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, Young Thor is so much of a damage sponge that three attacks from Apocalypse were going to break his spine and kill him. Real damage sponge there.

And Diana got up from both her arms broken pretty soon.

🙂

That actually is a good regeneration feat for her:

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Apocalypse could have straight up KILLED Thor, and it wouldn't change all his other feats. Although making fun of Young Thor (When he came out relatively unharmed) when Diana had her arms broken by what appeared to be a glancing blow from a Herald level being is pretty hilarious:

Fyi, being incapacitated by some broken bones in comparison to Thor, is not really a good feat.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
That actually is a good regeneration feat for her:

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Apocalypse could have straight up KILLED Thor, and it wouldn't change all his other feats. Although making fun of Young Thor (When he came out relatively unharmed) when Diana had her arms broken by what appeared to be a glancing blow from a Herald level being is pretty hilarious:

Fyi, being incapacitated by some broken bones in comparison to Thor, is not really a good feat.

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And your flip flopping at what is applicable for Thor and what isn't is so amusing. The narration told it in no clear terms that Apoc would've killed Thor in three strikes. That's ****ing embarrassing endurance right there.

When was the last time Thor had both of his arms broken?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Herald level? In the same series she took a hundred blows from Faora and no bones were broken. But leave it to you to lowball ****ing doomsday.

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And your flip flopping at what is applicable for Thor and what isn't is so amusing. The narration told it in no clear terms that Apoc would've killed Thor in three strikes. That's ****ing embarrassing endurance right there.

When was the last time Thor had both of his arms broken?

So Doomsday must be really uber because Diana survived attacks from Faora but it's Young Thor being weak against Apocalypse (Despite him having resources far beyond the norm) despite all the other shit this very incarnation has endured?

I didn't say it wasn't applicable, I said he was relatively unscathed. And even if Apocalypse HAD killed Thor, it changes nothing tbh. He has like almost two dozen other feats to draw that indicate easily high end herald capabilities and ridiculous damage soak. It might not be a great durability showing, but it has no reflection on his endurance.

What kind of question is that? The only measure of damage soak and pain endurance is having your arms broken? He has plenty of damage soak feats from just this year that make Diana being incapacitated from broken bones or almost dying from two back to back fights look embarrassing.

Fyi, Thor went a year with his bones shattered into mush. The curse made him immortal, but he still endured and suffered all that pain.

Lol Doomsday is a herald now? I haven't kept up with him much. Did he get nerfed hard in the new 52 or something?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So Doomsday must be really uber because Diana survived attacks from Faora but it's Young Thor being weak against Apocalypse (Despite him having resources far beyond the norm) despite all the other shit this very incarnation has endured?

Fyi, Thor went a year with his bones shattered into mush. The curse made him immortal, but he still endured and suffered all that pain.

Originally posted by dial J for Josh
Lol Doomsday is a herald now? I haven't kept up with him much. Did he get nerfed hard in the new 52 or something?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Under the same writer? I don't know about that. Aaron writes a high end version of the young thor, remender writes an average version of young Thor. In all hnesty, Thor has a shit endurance under Remender, Sentry was about to kill him in three or four punches. He wasn't stronger than Gorr or something.

So what if it's under a different writer? That doesn't change the fact that Apocalypse was amped and Young Thor was a beast.

There you go again, lowballing. No he doesn't. Remender's Thor was walking around just fine with an entire arm burned away. Wasp said Sentry was killing Thor, not that he was about to kill him in 3 to 4 punches. That is why Thor stood right back up and was unharmed. You need to learn the finer points of English.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It would. We don't take a particular feat and discard it because you don't like it. It certainly is. And Diana's damage soak is pretty good. A hundred uncontested punches from a kryptonian would **** even Avengers Thor up, let alone young Thor.. And later she took a severe beating from amped up kryptonians which was even more impressive. No broken bones in sight.

A hundred uncontested blows from a top tier and standing? I'd like to see them.

He had to. A broken arm from Blockbuster nearly incapacitated him from sheer pain untill Angel saved him and gave him enough tie to recover.

No, we average out feats. And if we do this to Young Thor, he comes out looking ridiculously good. He has one questionable showings and like two dozen other impressive feats. Yet your reasoning for Diana wining was the Apocalypse fight and whatever. So you seem to prefer to take one feat, and discard the rest.

Where did Diana take a hundred punches from Faora? And no it wouldn't. Not that Aaron's Thor, whether Young or Avenger, would let it get to that.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So what if it's under a different writer?

And no it wouldn't. Not that Aaron's Thor, whether Young or Avenger, would let it get to that.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Everything depends upon it. True, it would still mean Young Thor is around low-mid herald range.

And? He was about to kill Thor as she stated. That doesn't happens to thor usually.

Haha, really? What are those two dozen showings? Nope.

Why if Apocalypse is amped with original Celestial Armor and as every Apocalypse under Remender's new history, was granted a Death Seed?

And that means he has crazy damage soak. No, she said he was killing him, not that Sentry was about to "kill him in 3 to 4 punches":

Aside from the fact that Thor was literally unhurt, was at best stunned, Sentry was using his weird tentacle powers to attack the downed Thor (Negating the punching aspect), the Wasp might have easily just been underestimating Thor.

Originally posted by abhilegend
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Yeah, it would. Aaron's Thor or any Thor would get ****ed up with those many attacks.

You were arguing that those suits absorbed the kinetic energy of their punches, reducing the damage they endured. 😬

Why do you consider this to be relevant evidence now?

Also, we never saw them take a hundred blows. Why is this valid instead of hyperbole like other comics?

Not really.

Originally posted by abhilegend
In the same series she took a hundred blows from Faora and no bones were broken.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why if Apocalypse is amped with original Celestial Armor and as every Apocalypse under Remender's new history, was granted a Death Seed?

Not really.