Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Laugh at this:The Sith Emperor is the most powerful Force-user who has ever existed. Unless this implacable enemy can be defeated, the Jedi Order is doomed. (SWTORE, Page 89)
The Sith Emperor has mastered the dark side's power to become the most dominating Force-user the galaxy has ever seen. (SWTOR: Codex Entry)
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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
LOOOOL.
You mean in the third person omniscient limited encyclopedia that didn't even know the aftermath of Hero vs Vitiate or that Malgus was defeated?
Also, don't give me that BBY/ABBY crap, that calender was founded in 25,053 BBY (idk how, but it did)
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Galactic_Standard_Calendar
"NEW ERA OF THE EMPIRE
The Sith Empire reels from its near destruction at the hands of MALGUS THE BETRAYER, the once revered Imperial war hero. While Malgus's rebellion ended in failure, the fire of his revolution lives on.
Rampant dissatisfaction rots the core of the Empire. Military leaders lose faith in their fight. Sith Lords once united against the Republic now abandon the Empire to embark on bold power grabs. And amidst the chaos, Imperial worlds begin falling to the Republic.
As the Empire loses its grip on the galaxy, rumors rage about the assassination of the Sith Emperor. The Republic celebrates, but the citizens of the Empire know that their supreme leader is absent when they need him the most.
But hope still burns in millions of Imperial hearts. DARTH MARR steps forward from his Dark Council seat to guide the Empire's resurgence. Aliens join the Imperial ranks, as Sith recognize the wisdom of Darth Malgus's inclusive ideals. Loyal Sith and patriotic soldiers fight to repel the oppressive Republic, not knowing that the key to Empire's victory is close at hand...."
Stop embarrassing yourself, really.
Originally posted by Nalaniel
Are you really saying that Vitiate is more powerful than Sidious?
The official accolades of Sith Emperor are in front of you, they imply that Sith Emperor surpassed every other Force-user in power in history. Now whether The Ones and Abeloth further grew in power with passage of time is unclear to me.
Originally posted by ares834
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Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
From SWTOR(E):"NEW ERA OF THE EMPIRE
The Sith Empire reels from its near destruction at the hands of MALGUS THE BETRAYER, the once revered Imperial war hero. While Malgus's rebellion ended in failure, the fire of his revolution lives on.
Rampant dissatisfaction rots the core of the Empire. Military leaders lose faith in their fight. Sith Lords once united against the Republic now abandon the Empire to embark on bold power grabs. And amidst the chaos, Imperial worlds begin falling to the Republic.
As the Empire loses its grip on the galaxy, rumors rage about the assassination of the Sith Emperor. The Republic celebrates, but the citizens of the Empire know that their supreme leader is absent when they need him the most.
But hope still burns in millions of Imperial hearts. DARTH MARR steps forward from his Dark Council seat to guide the Empire's resurgence. Aliens join the Imperial ranks, as Sith recognize the wisdom of Darth Malgus's inclusive ideals. Loyal Sith and patriotic soldiers fight to repel the oppressive Republic, not knowing that the key to Empire's victory is close at hand...."
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Exactly, it ends with "rumors the Emperor is dead" but its unclear. They don't yet know if its' true, and what will happen next. Hence: it's in a third person limited omniscient view. Thanks for proving my point.
SWTOR(E) covers events within timeline between 30,000 BBY - 3,640 BBY
Also, force-user is, more often than not, just a shorthand for 'Jedi, Sith, or member of some other faction (or none at all) that also uses the Force', which is, I'm sure you'll agree, somewhat impractical for everyday usage. Even assuming that the encyclopedia knows of the existence of the Ones, you'd also have to assume that it was including them when using the term 'force-user', which you typically wouldn't.
Which leaves us with Vitiate being, up until that point, the most powerful Jedi, Sith, or member of some other faction (or none at all) that also uses the Force who ever lived. That's okay. It's still pretty impressive.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Thank you.
Which means it doesn't know of Palpatine.
Hence, Vitiate's accolades mean nothing to the Sith who came after because the Encyclopedia doesn't cover them
Originally posted by A Terrible Rod
Also, force-user is, more often than not, just a shorthand for 'Jedi, Sith, or member of some other faction (or none at all) that also uses the Force', which is, I'm sure you'll agree, somewhat impractical for everyday usage. Even assuming that the encyclopedia knows of the existence of the Ones, you'd also have to assume that it was including them when using the term 'force-user', which you typically wouldn't.Which leaves us with Vitiate being, up until that point, the most powerful Jedi, Sith, or member of some other faction (or none at all) that also uses the Force who ever lived. That's okay. It's still pretty impressive.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
SWTOR(E) means nothing however, because the accolades only refer to that time and before. Therefore, Sidious is still the most powerful Sith Lord.
Sith Emperor is a Sith only in label/pretention, he is a dark side practitioner who doesn't cares about Sith ideals.
TOR sources rank Sith Emperor on a grand scale and not just one specific order:-
"The Sith Emperor, history's most powerful dark side master, performed a ritual of incredible scope to consume the life energy of every being on his homeworld."
"The Sith Emperor is the most powerful Force-user who has ever existed. Unless this implacable enemy can be defeated, the Jedi Order is doomed."
"The Sith Emperor has mastered the dark side's power to become the most dominating Force-user the galaxy has ever seen."
Red from SWTOR(E) and blue from SWTOR(G).