Obi Wan Kenobi (Season 5) VS Season 5 Maul and Savage (Rematch)
Obi Wan Kenobi: "You can't kill me! I have plot immunity you don't stand a chance! Maul: "Oh crap! I serve no importance in the original trilogy I could get killed here and now!" Obi Wan: "That's right ***** now get me a beer". Takes place in dantooine fields Kenobi doesn't get any help from Hondo and maul and savage get no help aswell
It was taking everything Obi-wan had to hold off Maul and Savage on Florrum, and he had two advantages. One was dual blades, which were clearly useful in fending off both adversaries. The other was the relatively cramped environment of the cave, which Kenobi could take advantage of with Sokan, Maul and Savage could attack him from fewer directions, they had less space to coordinate, and the relative lack of space was certainly a hindrance to a fighter of Savage's size and armament.
Without these advantages here Kenobi would fall.
Originally posted by EmperordmbEnd of ROTS Kenobi would take them though
It was taking everything Obi-wan had to hold off Maul and Savage on Florrum, and he had two advantages. One was dual blades, which were clearly useful in fending off both adversaries. The other was the relatively cramped environment of the cave, which Kenobi could take advantage of with Sokan, Maul and Savage could attack him from fewer directions, they had less space to coordinate, and the relative lack of space was certainly a hindrance to a fighter of Savage's size and armament.Without these advantages here Kenobi would fall.
Yes to DMB, according to Darth Maul: Shadow Conspiracy:
1. Kenobi did a all out offensive when they expected a defensive.
2. The close quarters where they are fighting made the brothers "get in each other's way."
However it should be noted Maul was on a "animal rage", meaning he he was kinda amped in a way: Against them the Sith's attacks were raw and vicious-animal rage amplified and focused by the dark side of the Force."
Originally posted by Emperordmb
It was taking everything Obi-wan had to hold off Maul and Savage on Florrum, and he had two advantages. One was dual blades, which were clearly useful in fending off both adversaries. The other was the relatively cramped environment of the cave, which Kenobi could take advantage of with Sokan, Maul and Savage could attack him from fewer directions, they had less space to coordinate, and the relative lack of space was certainly a hindrance to a fighter of Savage's size and armament.Without these advantages here Kenobi would fall.
^ This plus Savage didn't/couldn't use his beastly Force Waves without possibly hitting Maul, and Kenobi was extra determined to take them down due to Savage killing Adi. It also might be a factor that Maul wanted to take Kenobi alive.
Basically it was a peak performance for Kenobi, and probably an under performance for the Brothers, all context specific.
Originally posted by PTforthewin
wasn't Kenobi winning against maul and Savage on florrum?
And what about all the times each of the Brother's has beaten Kenobi? Are we just going to ignore those?
Heck even in the same episode Maul and Kenobi had a fairly long one on one, in which neither seemed superior.
Originally posted by PTforthewin
End of ROTS Kenobi would take them though
No chance. Look how easily Dooku took him out in ROTS while fighting off Skywalker. You think Dooku would take out Maul and Savage that easily? No way. Savage and Ventress have given Dooku trouble.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERif obi wan defeated anakin who wasn't holding back but obi wan was holding back and anakin killed dooku which means mustafar Kenobi can defeat dooku
^ This plus Savage didn't/couldn't use his beastly Force Waves without possibly hitting Maul, and Kenobi was extra determined to take them down due to Savage killing Adi. It also might be a factor that Maul wanted to take Kenobi alive.Basically it was a peak performance for Kenobi, and probably an under performance for the Brothers, all context specific.
And what about all the times each of the Brother's has beaten Kenobi? Are we just going to ignore those?
Heck even in the same episode Maul and Kenobi had a fairly long one on one, in which neither seemed superior.
No chance. Look how easily Dooku took him out in ROTS while fighting off Skywalker. You think Dooku would take out Maul and Savage that easily? No way. Savage and Ventress have given Dooku trouble.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66unstable anakin would have easily killed dooku plus he "unstable" anakin was the only reason operation knightfall was successful not to mention that he killed like 5 jedi masters at a time including Cin drallig and sera kota
Lol.
Anakin was extremely unstable in his fight against Kenobi on Mustafar.
Originally posted by PTforthewin
if obi wan defeated anakin who wasn't holding back but obi wan was holding back and anakin killed dooku which means mustafar Kenobi can defeat dooku
Don't be silly. Kenobi fought Dooku in the same movie, as well as in TCW. He's been completely outmatched against Dooku everytime he's fought him.
Dooku spent energy fighting 2 opponents and KO'ing 1 of them whilst outclassing both then just underestimated the power of Anakin's full controlled rage. Plus Dooku was trying to turn Anakin as per Sidious's orders.
Kenobi on the other hand knew Anakin power and moves inside and out, and was prepared and ready to take him down.
Also with Anakin we don't know how much of his true potential came out against Dooku when he defeated him. Remember this is the same guy who one time overpowered The Son and Daughter. Doesn't mean ROTS Kenobi could do that LOL.
End of Anakin vs Kenobi and Anakin vs Dooku were 2 completely different fights and can not/should not be compared to one another.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERit doesn't matter TCW maul can not defeat obi wan on his own maul even admitted it stating "we Are 2 and your no match for us both".
Don't be silly. Kenobi fought Dooku in the same movie, as well as in TCW. He's been completely outmatched against Dooku everytime he's fought him.Dooku spent energy fighting 2 opponents and KO'ing 1 of them whilst outclassing both then just underestimated the power of Anakin's full controlled rage. Plus Dooku was trying to turn Anakin as per Sidious's orders.
Kenobi on the other hand knew Anakin power and moves inside and out, and was prepared and ready to take him down.
Also with Anakin we don't know how much of his true potential came out against Dooku when he defeated him. Remember this is the same guy who one time overpowered The Son and Daughter. Doesn't mean ROTS Kenobi could do that LOL.
End of Anakin vs Kenobi and Anakin vs Dooku were 2 completely different fights and can not/should not be compared to one another.
Originally posted by PTforthewin
it doesn't matter TCW maul can not defeat obi wan on his own maul even admitted it stating "we Are 2 and your no match for us both".
You missed the part where he said "surrender." Maul was talking from the context of wanting Kenobi alive.
Maul and Kenobi fought one on one that same episode. They were pretty even in Sabers, with perhaps Kenobi having the edge. But Maul has shown more power in the Force, and has dominated Kenobi with his superior Force powers a few times now.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERso what? Force pushing and throwing Kenobi around isnt a big feet. Kenobi did the same type of force push on grievous in episode 3. Plus Maul was killed by Owen Lars and he lost to obi in that dual near the Lars homestead.
You missed the part where he said "surrender." Maul was talking from the context of wanting Kenobi alive.Maul and Kenobi fought one on one that same episode. They were pretty even in Sabers, with perhaps Kenobi having the edge. But Maul has shown more power in the Force, and has dominated Kenobi with his superior Force powers a few times now.