Asgardians vs Jedi's

Originally posted by The Spleen
In TPM, Obi and QGJ are hundreds of feet down a hallway in the blink of an eye.

Why are you lying to me?

They were not three hundred feet down a hall, nor was it in the blink of an eye.

And Thor's hammer doesn't fly that fast in CQC situations.

Yet it did when he threw it at Kurse.

Yeah, he scene where they run from the Droidekas. Problem?

It isn't very good. Destroyer's blasts are faster, and Thor deflected those.

Why would they run from Thor? They have precog, which will enable them to know what Thor is gonna do before he does it. They have speed blitz (I know this one stings, but you are gonna have to learn to accept it), which will enable them to close the gap between them and Thor in an eyeblink and decapitate him.

Thor is faster than the Jedi. He one-shots both with one attack.

No matter what Thor tries, he will fail. If he tries CQC, the Jedi are gonna dodge and cut him in half from behind. If he tries to summon lightning, in the few seconds it takes for him to do so, the Jedi will speed blitz over and decapitate him. Or use TK to immobilize him.

If he tries CQC, he will decapitate them with a single swing. Obi is the same guy that was beaten in a fist fight by Jango Fett. He isn't that fast.

Thor summons a hurricane and kills them.

Loki with that spear and illusions will do damagee. I think ppl forget that thor has been fighting for centuries. To be honest he should be more skilled in combat than the jedi. Just because they are flashy some ppl keep claiming thor will get raped if he gets in close. First off the jedi are not strong enough to block a blow from thor without some serious kick back. Second thor is just as fast. The jedi block laser fire because of the force. Thor does it outa skill alone. They are closer in combat speed than ppl think. Second spleen said thor takes awhile to charge lightning. Bullshit. He blasted the aether without charging. He fried malekiths face without charging. He did that lightning charged jammer strike that killed the Leviathan without charging. Thor is not some slow lumbering brute in combat. I dont even know where they get that from. Loki is catching arrows without looking and thor keeps up with and eventually beats him everytime. Infact look at the times thor has ever lost....the hulk(if u count that as a real fight)..he got out muscled. Kurse...a guy who is older than the universe itself and is probably one of thee if not thee most experienced fighters in movie history with a millennia of combat experience. He has only lost to stronger more skilled opponents. The jedi are neither. He also tanked IM repulors to the face without a scratch. Im not privy on how hot lightsabers are but i dont think they'd cleave right through him. I dunno.. either way thor and loki would be too much. Gungir and lightning spam would def incapacitate the jedi.

Originally posted by Impediment
Thor could just use Mjolnir to creates a lightning storm and fry the Jedi from afar, no?

That might work if the, Jedi didn't have force powers. However, with abilities like force rush, force jump and force push I don't see Thors ability to harness lightning storms being of much use. By the time Thor summons a storm the Jedi could be right on top of him.

I just don't see how the asgards in this scenario could harm the Jedi in any way. a few force rushes, force pushes and a saber throw should be enough to end this fight.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Why are you lying to me?

They were not three hundred feet down a hall, nor was it in the blink of an eye.

Yet it did when he threw it at Kurse.

It isn't very good. Destroyer's blasts are faster, and Thor deflected those.

Thor is faster than the Jedi. He one-shots both with one attack.

If he tries CQC, he will decapitate them with a single swing. Obi is the same guy that was beaten in a fist fight by Jango Fett. He isn't that fast.

Thor summons a hurricane and kills them.

What makes you think that Thors agility and speed is on the same level of a, Jedi Knight, not to mention...,faster? I don' want to discredit Thor as warrior here because I like him and he is a very capable fighter but he is highly outclassed here. Thor is a relatively slow fighter. He is a brawler. He possess great strength but in order for him to access his highest levels of power he requires a moment to either charge his hammer or summon storms/lightning. It may not take too long for him to do so and during that time he is telegraphing an attack.

Jedi knights are extremely fluent in accessing the full range of their abilities. I don't doubt that a standard hammer attack from Thor would be enough to drop a Jedi but using their powers the fullest of their abilities will allow them to dodge or deflect a hammer throw as well as a lightning blast.

Feats.

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
What makes you think that Thors agility and speed is on the same level of a, Jedi Knight, not to mention...,faster? I don' want to discredit Thor as warrior here because I like him and he is a very capable fighter but he is highly outclassed here. Thor is a relatively slow fighter. He is a brawler. He possess great strength but in order for him to access his highest levels of power he requires a moment to either charge his hammer or summon storms/lightning. It may not take too long for him to do so and during that time he is telegraphing an attack.

Jedi knights are extremely fluent in accessing the full range of their abilities. I don't doubt that a standard hammer attack from Thor would be enough to drop a Jedi but using their powers the fullest of their abilities will allow them to dodge or deflect a hammer throw as well as a lightning blast.

Its Thor and Loki, didn't you read the OP? No matter how you want to spin it, Loki is not going to be outsmarted by Jedi tricks, considering he is the master of tricks.

What is subject, feat, that Is in question? Speed?

The Jedis force abilities allow them to be both offensive and defensive at the same time which make them master warriors that are unmatched unless fighting against other opponents that can manipulate the force or possess similar abilities. The force powers allow the Jedi to control the tempo of the fight. I don't mean to insinuate that Jedi Knights are the "be all end all". A direct strike from Mjlonir would erase obiwan or Anakin, however the moment that hammer leaves, Thors, hands he is open for a klll shot with no defense. Consdering the force abilities such as, force grip, force rush, force jump and force push there is no reason to rationally (can't believe i'm using that word in a debate like this lol ) assume that the, Jedi couldn't dodge Mjlonir. The Jedi certainly wouldn't be able to force grab Mjlonir but they could very well push/deflect it.

Thor may end up killing either or Anakin but if it's done with a thrown hammer, he will die before it returns. a for loki, well that not even worth discussing. Loki may actually end up getting Thor killed lmao

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Its Thor and Loki, didn't you read the OP? No matter how you want to spin it, Loki is not going to be outsmarted by Jedi tricks, considering he is the master of tricks.

Yeah, I read it. Why do you ask? 😕

I agree with you. Loki won't be outsmarted by tricks. He'll be decapitated by a lightsaber. The jedi would see right through Lokis illusions as though they were wearing x-ray specs.

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Yeah, I read it. Why do you ask? 😕

I agree with you. Loki won't be outsmarted by tricks. He'll be decapitated by a lightsaber. The jedi would see right through Lokis illusions as though they were wearing x-ray specs.

No he wont even be hit by the lightsaber because he will just do a hallucination. Your over extending the jedi's powers while in the middle of them getting trashed by Gungir and Thors hammer.

If Loki is invisible good luck having the jedi's find him while dealing with Thor.

Think the word you're looking for is "illusion". Jedi will see right through that with their danger sense.

Originally posted by Robtard
Think the word you're looking for is "illusion". Jedi will see right through that with their danger sense.

They have never shown that ability while in the middle of a fight, nor have they gone against an invisible target.

Incorrect; here's why:

1st year padawans are taught to fight without the use of their eyes; solely using the Force to "see" (seen in ep1 & ep4). But you're going to insist a Jedi master and Jedi Knight just can't now?

I reject your silly claim; you've been rejected.

Originally posted by Robtard
Incorrect; here's why:

1st year padawans are taught to fight without the use of their eyes; solely using the Force to "see" (seen in ep1 & ep4). But you're going to insist a Jedi master and Jedi Knight just can't now?

I reject your silly claim; you've been rejected.

I'm not talking about fighting without their eyes. Im talking when he's invisible and goes intangible, he can't be hurt by them. They are gonna be two busy with Thor's AOE which will 1 shot them.

Between Thor wrecking with hammer and Loki doing his stuff with Gungir, the jedi's force powers is not enough to take them down.

When has Loki gone "intangible? As far as going "invisible", I'm pretty sure he wasn't actually invisible, just hidden, as he created an illusion around himself. Jedi will sense right through that nonsense.

Jango Fett gave Obi Wan a lot of trouble. And Jango neither has enhanced speed or strength. Probably not even a quarter of Thor's strength. Where's this famous jedi speed blitz that y'all are talking about?

Originally posted by Robtard
When has Loki gone "intangible? As far as going "invisible", I'm pretty sure he wasn't actually invisible, just hidden, as he created an illusion around himself. Jedi will sense right through that nonsense.

If he can shroud himself from Heimdall's God Sight, he can hide from Obi's force powers..

When did Loki hide himself from Heimdall using his own powers?

Originally posted by Robtard
When did Loki hide himself from Heimdall using his own powers?

Thor the first movie

Yeah, which scene?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Why are you lying to me?

They were not three hundred feet down a hall, nor was it in the blink of an eye.

Yes, they were down the hall in an eyeblink, it's right there in the vid. Video footage>>>your opinion.

Yet it did when he threw it at Kurse.

Even if it did, you do realize that the Jedi will know he is gonna throw it before it even leaves his hand, yes? Even before he rears back to throw it, yes?

It isn't very good. Destroyer's blasts are faster, and Thor deflected those.

Now I KNOW you're trippin'.

Thor is faster than the Jedi. He one-shots both with one attack.

He most certainly is NOT faster. Stop spouting such BS claims.

If he tries CQC, he will decapitate them with a single swing. Obi is the same guy that was beaten in a fist fight by Jango Fett. He isn't that fast.

Lol, love how you constantly downplay Jedi feats. You keep quoting low end feats when you NOW we use high end feats here.

Thor summons a hurricane and kills them.