The Revan Respect Thread: Update Thread

Started by Selenial47 pages

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
"Or that Revan didn't want them to know about his return until the time was right, while he had plans for Shan and whatnot to die to help fuel the Emperor's return."

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Unlike Shan and the rest of the gang, Revan made it pretty clear he didn't want the protagonists getting in his way. The fact they didn't sense the disturbance may be due to the simple fact Revan didn't want them to.

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It's possible, but given the massive disturbance in the Force that Beniko and Spindrall were feeling was attributed to Revan, I'm going to go out on-a-limb (sarcasm) and say Shan felt what they were feeling.

I have no clue why you're being so hostile but it's amusing.

So Revan just chose to let Satele Shan and Lana Beniko track him down if they really wanted to, because "**** it, I'll take on the GrandMaster of the Jedi Order but Barsen'Thor's going a bit too far"? Kek.

And probably because this is the most retarded wank you've come out with in a while, and it's frankly embarrassing to be associated with you in any way right now. I'm distancing myself 👆

Speaking of embarrassing, don't you have a debate with Quanchi to reply to? Or are you going to pull a DC and simply get so slaughtered you "forget to reply"?

So Revan just chose to let Satele Shan and Lana Beniko track him down if they really wanted to, because "**** it, I'll take on the GrandMaster of the Jedi Order but Barsen'Thor's going a bit too far"? Kek.

Given Lana said the disturbance couldn't be pinpointed, I think he was safe from that, rofl.

And probably because this is the most retarded wank you've come out with in a while, and it's frankly embarrassing to be associated with you in any way right now. I'm distancing myself thumb up

I would leave too if you can't even make one successful point in an effort to rebuttal a proposition as batshit crazy as the one I'm making. 😉

Speaking of embarrassing, don't you have a debate with Quanchi to reply to? Or are you going to pull a DC and simply get so slaughtered you "forget to reply"?

Quan's post been up for hardly even a day. 😬 Patience.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Or that Revan didn't want them to know about his return until the time was right, while he had plans for Shan and whatnot to die to help fuel the Emperor's return.

Nah, Revan didn't want Satele and Theron to die. He wanted them to join him.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Nah, Revan didn't want Satele and Theron to die. He wanted them to join him.

He wanted Theron to join him, not Satele.

The entire Rishi plot was to wipe out Shan and Marr's fleets, with them inside to take out the leadership. 😬

They said that like eighteen times and even had a codex entry on it.

Why would he want Theron and not Satele? I mean I could give a few reasons for why I personally would kill Satele, but I doubt any form of Revan supports them. He needs their fleets to die. Not Satele specifically, and given the emotional ties he clearly shows, even on Yavin towards them, it's nonsensical to think he wants to kill her.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Why would he want Theron and not Satele? I mean I could give a few reasons for why I personally would kill Satele, but I doubt any form of Revan supports them.

"Of all the worlds one would expect to find the Order of Revan's plan unfolding, Rishi would hardly seem a likely candidate. While it's true that the island-dotted paradise would be ideal for planning without fear of interference, the lack of Imperial and Republic presence would also limit the ability to act on those plans. That is, unless the Empire and Republic were somehow drawn to Rishi. The Nova Blades were employed by the Revanites to trick the galactic powers into believing their most vital fleets were at the mercy of the pirate gang's infamous hyperlane raids; in reality they were being corralled into a trap. With a signal jammer taking away their ability to communicate with one another and with their ships compromised by Revanite traitors, Darth Marr and Master Shan - and the many thousands under their command - now stand on the brink of annihilation, just as Revan had intended."

The codex disagrees, tbh.

And: "Revan wants to draw them into a fight, try to take out the leadership."

So you're going full Beni with the "the codex is an out-of-game, impartial, source," thing, huh? Interesting.

And he doesn't have to kill Satele to take out their leadership.

Beni says that?

Gross.

And nah, it's the codex + the quote combo. And plus logic.

We explicitly see Revanite turbolasers firing upon Shan's ship in the Battle of Rishi Flashpoint.

And yeah, Shan is the leadership.

The only thing he ever said that remotely suggests he cares about Shan is that "my own flesh and blood standing against me!" and he then in the next sentence he TK'd Shan, so I don't think he cared that much.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
He caused a shift, yeah (Emperor's Hand and Spindrall email), though it wasn't towards to the dark side or the light.
A shift that goes nowhere... right.
It was felt by powerful figures of both the Jedi Order and the Sith Empire.
Can we be specific? You've only listed Lana, Spindrall and the Emperor's Hand so far.
Given the Force was shifted enough for people to care a lot, I assume even the lower ranks felt it too (so a large majority of the Order at the very least), so yeah.
It didn't shift by you're own ommission, and considering the "lower ranks" would have inferior senses to said "powerful figures" this makes no sense.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
As I already told Freshest, the fact they didn't sense it is probably more plot-related than anything, unless you want to argue their senses are inferior to that of like, Satele Shan, who you put below Ventress?
Isn't Satele Shan legendary for her powers of foresight? Being more powerful than X doesn't mean you're better in everything. This ignoring the fact that Shan has blood ties to him.
So Maul's resurrection causing a temporary disturbance in the Force is the same as Revan not only maintaining one indefinitely, but the fact it's growing as well?
Proof Maul's was not indefinite?

Also "Something is rising... Something sinister." Maul's was growing too.

The first can be credited to something like the destruction of all those dead in the DD novel, which I recall the Jedi felt as a disturbance.

The latter is really only up there with entire sides of the Force being tilted one way or another.

Except again by you're own ommission, no tilt occurred, its a disturbance, which as you say, have happened for lesser things.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
This same logic you're using can be applied to Telekinesis and the conclusion would be Palpatine and Darth Bandon are equals. 👆
I'd ask you to explain, but I'd rather not have cancer.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
You try so hard it's adorable.
Is this some kind of self-commentary?

a.) Because the Force can only be gauged on a spectrum of light / dark and not between balance and chaos (sound familiar)? 😬
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b.) Satele Shan too. Possibly some others but haven't checked all the emails.
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e.) I can't prove a negative. Retarded question. However, prove to me that "something is rising" is in regards to Maul.
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f.) The very nature of a disturbance is a ripple in the Force's balance. 😬 An indefinite disturbance is a tilt.
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also infinite keks at you completely, and fully, missing the point of my actual argument. You're way out in left field.

I'll play with this for a little longer though.

a) Chaos is associated with the dark side, and imbalance can only be caused by a shift to one pole. So yes? Revan caused an anomaly or disturbance which while impressive in its potency, doesn't seem to be on level with that Plagueis/Sidious achieved.

b) Cool, so not the everyone and his mother then.

c) Right so it's an assumption as to whether Maul's was or was not indefinite, and therefore a moot point that Revan's (supposedly) was.

As for your question, what else it is supposed to be referring to?

d) No it's just a ripple in the Force, if it isn't titling to the light or dark.

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I just pounded Silver2467 with what is probably my last major pro-Revan argument besides my final blog coming out in the summer.

>Sees Ant thread bumped
>No Caedus update

Why

fite me irl

Of course~

Think its frowned upon to "fite" kids 5 or so years younger than me though :hmm

Wait, where did you pound Silver?

i mean i threw a massive revan shit at him tbh

not like pounded him in a debate

Massive shit is right tbh.

damn, i thought neph died kek