Originally posted by DARTH POWER
That's because Cap has probably improved his abilities since he's got his powers. And nothing in WS outright contradicts what we see in TFA anyway. His powers just were not portrayed as well in the first film.
Cap has improved his abilities, lol. Ever wonder whether it could be that Cap simply never had the room to perform those uber feats in previous movies as opposed to the most recent one? Or the fact that
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
On the other hand with Wolverine, the feats your talking about mainly happen in the past, so there's no excuse for present day Wolverine featured in the older movies to have less durability.
Those feats are canon to the character and aren’t automatically get dismissed just because you hate Wolverine and have a Cap-boner.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
It's just an inconsistency which you can't ignore, no matter how much you'd like to.
😂 Silly goose, if anything is an inconsistency, it is him not only getting KO’d by the bullet, but said bullet even managing to penetrate his skull. Which is supposed to be coated with an indestructible alloy. By virtue of how that scene was portrayed alone, we can conclude that that scene in X-2 is an instance of retarded PIS/WIS, and should not be counted in a forum setting.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
And vice versa. Those mutiple tankings do not override the several times he's been KO'd by much lessser attacks.
Again, bullshit reasoning. Might as well start claiming that Cap struggling with Batroc, a regular peak human, is an inconsistency when we see how he performs against a low-level superhuman like Bucky.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Really? Because I'm just taking your lead here. You seem to be doing the same thing.
I am not the one offering bs reason after bs reason to remove Wolverine’s durability/damage soak feats in favor of low showings, and going so far as to give Cap nonexistent advantages like poison darts/capsules just because I want that particular character to win.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
And talking of being disingenuous, you pretty much just done the same thing yourself. I was saying I wouldn't be surprised if Origins gets written out of canon, but did not actually declare it non-canon.
Yes, because me admitting that you’re talking in a What If vernancular is totally the same thing as me accusing you of declaring that Origins has become non-canon. Because the 2 are so clearly the same thing. 🙄
Originally posted by DARTH POWERWhilst you are outright trying to make the X-trilogy Wolverine's showings as Non-Canon to the Origins Wolverine, by saying we should treat them seperated.
Stating your opinion on how a character would perform in a forum fight based on a particular portrayal is not the same thing as declaring that portrayal as non-canon. Again, reading comprehension. Try to improve it before you decide to continue this debate.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Again vice versa too. We have several instances of Wolverine being KO'd. You'd like to ignore them, but I won't let you get away with that.
So repeating yourself twice, that too in the very same post, now counts as actually making a point. I was unaware of that.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Fact his his showings have been inconsistent. Which is why I'm not claiming CAP will knock him out in 5 seconds. But that chances are he will eventually lay a KO hit on him.
Yet in the more recent portrayal, he has had feats far superior to Cap’s. Taking on trained samurais > a f*cking kickboxer pirate.
Not before Wolverine lands a fatal shot. Wolverine can damage Cap far worse than Cap can damage Wolverine.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
As I said it's an inconsistent showing. But not one that can be ignored. He can tank a lot, but can be KO'd be less as well. So CAP can (and probably will) lay a KO eventually given his far superior strength, speed, agaility and combat moves. As well as his Shield.
In what pixiedust land does Cap possess superior stats over Wolverine? As opposed to the other way round? Wolverine has opponents far stronger than any opponent Cap has faced. Heck, the weakest of Wolverine’s opponents(Sabretooth) is probably as strong and fast as one of Cap’s strongest(Bucky). Same goes for Blob(whom Wolverine actually beat in h2h) and Juggernaut, who are each individually stronger than Loki.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
And your right, Poisions are inferior to the radioactive fallout from a nuke. But guess what? That inconsistency happens in the same damn movie LOL. So no you can't get away with ignoring his incocnsistent showings, and just sticking to his higher feats.
In this case I absolutely can, since Cap isn’t packing any lethal drugs to put Wolverine out of commission.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
LOL Phoenix could have just tossed him around the way Magneto does, but chose not to, so was obviously holding back.
Tossing him around isn’t the same thing as trying to break him apart atom by atom. Which is a feat that requires far more power, and which she failed to do. Which in itself is clearly a testament to his durability, but I forget that I am talking to the guy who’s entire argument rests on lowballing one character while wanking the shit out of the latter.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Magneto has no problems doing whatever he wants to Wolverine's bones.
Yet he never broke his joints or any of the sh1t that you claim Cap can do with his shield.