Claiming Logan is hypersonic is, quite frankly, absurd. Just watching the trailers for Days of Future Past with Quicksilver (someone who is legitimately supersonic), you can see that he MASSIVELY outclasses Wolverine in speed.
That being said, his speed isn't much slower than Cap, and he his regen and adamantium skeleton gives him the win. I also wouldn't say he lacks skill in fighting. His fighting style, because he mainly utilises his claws, just looks very simple and brutal. It has, however, shown to be quite effective in his more recent showings.
So Wolvie takes this fight.
Still acting like you know everything?
Besides I have posted feats that SHOWS him outclassing him in different ways. The thing is you just want to ignore wolverine at his best and use cap at his so that cap will win. It doesn't make sense when you want to ignore someones best feats and keep using another characters best feats.
Oh btw, I'm pretty sure quicksilver is going to be far above Supersonic.
Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
In running speed not fighting speed.
Running speed is the best indication of overall speed, since when you run you have to maneuver around things at that speed (reflexes) and you have to be able to move your limbs that fast (a good indication of speed of kicks and punches). Hence why Superman and The Flash would always have running races to see who is faster (in the comics).
Besides which we've seen Cap fight faster than Wolverine.
So Cap is faster. End of.
There is problems in logic with using the feats listed to claim Wolverine is hypersonic.
To target the issue in one way, the way Deadpool performs in the bullet/sword scene and how he performs against Wolverine is vastly different. We can literally see him moving MUCH faster in that scene in comparison to how he does against Wolverine.
Use the Usain Bolt example:
Bolt is the fastest runner on the planet. But if someone else beats him in a qualifier when he isn't using his full speed, this doesn't make the other guy faster, or even as fast as Bolt is. Deadpool was simply moving much faster during the gun scene than he was against Wolverine.
But let's also try it a different way:
In that same film, Gambit showed equal, or potentially faster, speed than Wolverine. So did Sabretooth.
In X1 Mystique was shown to seemingly have a slight speed advantage over Wolverine.
In X3 Juggs was able to keep pace with Wolverine.
In The Wolverine, Shingen also matched and was arguably a tad faster than Wolverine. Wolverine beat him because his claws were indestructable and he could tank Shingen's hits.
By your logic, all these characters, because they are a match for Wolverine speed wise (including a regular human) should be classed as being hypersonic. And we know that this simply isn't true.
Bottom line, just because Wolverine fought (and got his ass kicked) by a guy who showed more speed than he showed in that fight, in a different instance under very different circumstances, does not make him hypersonic.
Not that it matters, because Wolverine still has enough of an edge overall to take this match.
I actually haven't brought up the hypersonic speed thing recently, they just brought it up. I have not actually said wolverine is hypersonic, I said whee fought someone who was hypersonic. Cap couldn't even dodge pistol fire. And also I been said before that the x men movies suck and I don't read their comics. I just know who has better feats. People who argue for someone and lol at other people when they post feats is fanboyism.
Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
I actually haven't brought up the hypersonic speed thing recently, they just brought it up. I have not actually said wolverine is hypersonic, I said whee fought someone who was hypersonic. Cap couldn't even dodge pistol fire. And also I been said before that the x men movies suck and I don't read their comics. I just know who has better feats. People who argue for someone and lol at other people when they post feats is fanboyism.
well cap was trying to save the world, but you've forgotten that.. yet after being shot he still saved the world.. contrast that with logan who was ko'd after being shot..
but you are the biggest logan fanboy here though..
logan got his ass handed to him by a faster opponent in lady deathstrike, he only won after he pumped her full of liquid adamantium,, he also got his ass handed to him by mystique as well..
logan HAS NOT, REPEAT HAS NOT shown any type of strength that tells me he can rip the shield away from Cap..
also remember this, better feats allegedly doesn't always mean someone wins in a forum fight