Originally posted by Time Immemorial
OP didn't state fight to the death, so its first to KO by forum regs.
I know what it means. I'm pointing out how people are saying Cap ko's Logan, but ignoring the numerous times Logan tanks damage that would KO anyone else. Let's compare.
X1
Sabretooth knocked him out with a tree branch.
X2
A 0mm bullet to the skull knocked him out.
X3
Takes an extended beating from Juggernaut, the physically strongest person aside from an amped Shaw in the X-Men/Wolverine film series. No KO.
Origins
Takes a beating from Blob. A guy durable/strong enough to punch a tank shell and not be harmed when it explodes in the barrel. He knocked him from one end of the gym to the other with no effort.
Takes a bunch of explosions from Gambit.
Takes a beating from Sabretooth.
Gets shot in the head by Agent Zero and is only pissed off.
The Wolverine
With a weakened healing factor, took getting shot several times(pistol and buckshot).
Kept going despite all the ninja attacking him in the end.
Took hits from Silver Samurai.
He's also shown strength around Cap's level when he just tosses guys like 15-20 feet.
Cap's not ko'ing him, and if he can, it's a lot harder than people seem to think.
And those claws are far more dangerous than the shield, one good cut is all Logan needs to put Cap on the ropes if not end the fight.
Originally posted by KingD19
I know what it means. I'm pointing out how people are saying Cap ko's Logan, but ignoring the numerous times Logan tanks damage that would KO anyone else. Let's compare.X1
Sabretooth knocked him out with a tree branch.X2
A 0mm bullet to the skull knocked him out.X3
Takes an extended beating from Juggernaut, the physically strongest person aside from an amped Shaw in the X-Men/Wolverine film series. No KO.Origins
Takes a beating from Blob. A guy durable/strong enough to punch a tank shell and not be harmed when it explodes in the barrel. He knocked him from one end of the gym to the other with no effort.Takes a bunch of explosions from Gambit.
Takes a beating from Sabretooth.
Gets shot in the head by Agent Zero and is only pissed off.
The Wolverine
With a weakened healing factor, took getting shot several times(pistol and buckshot).Kept going despite all the ninja attacking him in the end.
Took hits from Silver Samurai.
He's also shown strength around Cap's level when he just tosses guys like 15-20 feet.
Cap's not ko'ing him, and if he can, it's a lot harder than people seem to think.
And those claws are far more dangerous than the shield, one good cut is all Logan needs to put Cap on the ropes if not end the fight.
He got knocked out by a non adamentium bullet to the head in X-3 man. Funny how you leave that fact out in your examination of all the movies.
Originally posted by jaden101
Cap can and will beat on wolverine all day long. He'll never kill him though. He can ko him over and over but wolverine will just keep coming back and back and back until the rare occasions when he does start tagging cap begin to mount up.So unless you're allowing some mechanism for cap to remove wolvie's healing then this will always end up with cap dead. 10/10 however long it takes.
So Cap knocks him out then ties him up spread eagled. What's Wolvie gonna do then? Or knock him out, tie him up, then throw him in the ocean.
Originally posted by KingD19
So you're going to ignore aaaaallll the other times stuff more damaging than a bullet didn't knock him out?Or the time he got shot by a higher caliber bullet and was only pissed off?
I shouldn't be surprised.
I'm not ignoring it, the high end feats and low end feats don't add up is all I'm saying.
In one battle he's taking on juggernaut head on, in another he's getting toss around by a lady death stroke..
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I'm not ignoring it, the high end feats and low end feats don't add up is all I'm saying.In one battle he's taking on juggernaut head on, in another he's getting toss around by a lady death stroke..
So we can put the feats together and say that Cap has a decent chance of KO'ing him eventually. Remember he's not only hitting him with far superior strength, but with his Shield.
You can't say for sure that will be less powerful than punches from Juggs. And we don't even know for sure that Juggs gave him his best shot or anything. But we do know for sure that he can be knocked out by Sabertooth wielding a tree or by a well placed bullet to the head.
Sure adamantium >>> cyber arm.
Winter Soldier's skills >>>>> Logan's though.
Cap's skills, strength, speed, agility, brains > Logan's.
I ain't saying he wins, but his skills being showcased the way they were in Winter Soldier makes this a harder call IMO.
or maybe I'm just a little biased because before WS I saw Cap as a shitty slugger abusing his physical prowess.
Here's the thing: Solid shield bash to the face/head may or may not KO Wolverine. Solid claw stab to the face/head will put down Captain America.
Then there the fact that the body-shots Cap lands won't do much to Wolverine considering his adamantiun skeleton and healing-factor. While body-shots Wolverine lands will make Cap bleed.
Though I would imagine Cap is going to land more hits than Wolverine is , but Wolverine really only needs one good hit to a vital spot, head, neck, heart for a certain win.
Originally posted by Robtard
Here's the thing: Solid shield bash to the face/head may or may not KO Wolverine. Solid claw stab to the face/head will put down Captain America.Then there the fact that the body-shots Cap lands won't do much to Wolverine considering his adamantiun skeleton and healing-factor. While body-shots Wolverine lands will make Cap bleed.
Though I would imagine Cap is going to land more hits than Wolverine is , but Wolverine really only needs one good hit to a vital spot, head, neck, heart for a certain win.
True, but as long as Cap has his shield Wolverine can't lay a claw on him. Cap is much faster and more agile, and therefore should be able to easily block Wolverine's slow attacks