Darth Malgus vs RotS Anakin and RotS Kenobi

Started by Nephthys9 pages
Originally posted by NewGuy01
You say he did extremely well against the strike team, but there is no evidence supporting this theory. If that's the case then all flashpoint bosses are top-tier, meaning HK-47 could contend with Revan on an even scale, which is obviously not true.

Other than ragdolling 3 of them at once, you mean? Furthermore, all of Malgus dialogue during the duel is confident, without any strain or weakness in his voice.

1.) Something that happens during gameplay isn't canon unless deemed so by the developers, which it has not been.

2.) Are you seriously kidding me? All bosses in all decent video games spout out confident taunting lines throughout your battles, this isn't evidence towards anything.

1) Scripted events are canonical. They are not game mechanics, they are events which the developers coded to always occur in the fights.

2) Most bosses represent good fights in video games. Thats why they're bosses. 😐

Sidious ragdolls guards, furthermore chokes the shit out of Savage and Maul.

Collective forum jizzes their pants.

Malgus ragdolls two muggles while choking one of two ridiculously powerful Force users (noted by devs as specifically being the "best of their generation/in the galaxy) while still maintaining the concentration to fight the remaining combatant.

Collective forum mehs, lowballs. Claims other team has bias.

You guys ****ing crack me up sometimes.

Originally posted by Nephthys
If certain events always occur in a boss battle then I take them as canon. The developers scripted the fight so that Malgus always does that stuff at certain points if I am not mistaken.

So...HK-47, and random Dark Council members give the HoT more trouble than the Emperor?

Originally posted by Nephthys
1) Scripted events are canonical. They are not game mechanics, they are events which the developers coded to always occur in the fights.

2) Most bosses represent good fights in video games. Thats why they're bosses. 😐

It's feasible for this event to happen limitless amount of times depending on how good your healer is and if you can't use grenades correctly to put Malgus down the hole.

It's canoncity is very much in the air.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Sidious ragdolls guards, furthermore chokes the shit out of Savage and Maul.

Collective forum jizzes their pants.

Malgus ragdolls two muggles while choking one of two ridiculously powerful Force users (noted by devs as specifically being the "best of their generation/in the galaxy) while still maintaining the concentration to fight the remaining combatant.

Collective forum mehs, lowballs. Claims other team has bias.

You guys ****ing crack me up sometimes.


Please tell me if I am included in your bias accusation, because I feel the same way about both of their feats.

Malgus ragdolling the two non-force sensitives, not that impressive. Malgus chokes one of the force sensitive protags, impressive.

Sidious chokes two mandalorians, not that impressive.
Sidious ragdolls Maul and Savage, impressive.

I cannot see how I am holding them at different standards here.

Yeah what Malgus did, regardless of whether or not it is canon is impressive. What's not impressive are the two force classes getting tooled so easily.

Why would you think he could fight them both at once Neph?

You're smarter than that.

He'd take out Kenobi with mild difficulty, but against Anakin I don't think he could do it IDK.

Team utterly trounces him.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Please tell me if I am included in your bias accusation, because I feel the same way about both of their feats.

Malgus ragdolling the two non-force sensitives, not that impressive. Malgus chokes one of the force sensitive protags, impressive.

Sidious chokes two mandalorians, not that impressive.
Sidious ragdolls Maul and Savage, impressive.

I cannot see how I am holding them at different standards here.

Consider the analogy in a general sense:

It is an impressive feat that Sidious has accomplished (I even thought it was a badass high showing) and no one low-balls it or poo-poos it.

Malgus does something similar (and to be fair, either Nox or the Emperor's Wrath are better Force users than Maul or especially Savage) and there's a considerable amount of nay-saying, downplaying, etc.

That's a double-standard. Whether or not you think I'm talking directly to you is quite frankly, irrelevant (I'm not; I didn't have you in mind) The general point still stands. A large majority of SW fans are film fans first, and will always favor film continuity over EU.

I don't share that viewpoint. Amusingly, I have been accused of hating film continuity, but this is bogus. The OT is for me, the purest form of Star Wars, and although I have some major issues with the PT (if only from years of analyzing it on these forums) I still read and enjoyed a good bit of PT EU, as well as watching all of the PT films many, many times.

I just don't see the point of coming to an EU sub-forum and belittling any combatant the moment he/she comes into conflict with a movie character. It's kind of boring and thought-terminating. I also think that a lot of these EU champions, villains and so on are meant to be comparable to movie champions and villains and are sometimes colored with themes or motifs to remind us of that fact. To write them off as inferior because they aren't in live-motion or they "exist in a video game" makes me ask "Why even include the characters in the first place if you aren't willing to discuss them objectively?"

So, take that for what you will. This is not my first time in a SW forum, and certainly not my first time debating with other people on the internet of all places. I'm just not rushing to sugar-coat my observations when the bullshit continues unabated.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
So...HK-47, and random Dark Council members give the HoT more trouble than the Emperor?

I don't think the Hero has canonically fought HK.

Which Dark Council member?

I don't really know what you're referring to though. What happens in the HK fight? Does he do well?

Originally posted by Based
It's feasible for this event to happen limitless amount of times depending on how good your healer is and if you can't use grenades correctly to put Malgus down the hole.

It's canoncity is very much in the air.

How does that make it plausibly non-canonical? Why could it not just be Malgus using the same tactic over and over? I mean, I probably wouldn't say that it happens loads of times, but the fact remains that it always happens in the fight.

Originally posted by carthage
Why would you think he could fight them both at once Neph?

You're smarter than that.

He'd take out Kenobi with mild difficulty, but against Anakin I don't think he could do it IDK.

Because Dooku could and Malgus is better than Dooku.

Apparently not. You must be so disappointed in me.

Malgus would one-shot Kenobi then ragdoll Anakin while telling him that he hasn't had this much fun since the Sack of Coruscant.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Malgus would one-shot Kenobi then ragdoll Anakin while telling him that he hasn't had this much fun since the Sack of Coruscant.

I lol'd so hard.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I don't think the Hero has canonically fought HK.

Which Dark Council member?

I don't really know what you're referring to though. What happens in the HK fight? Does he do well?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Soverus

He lasts a good amount of time. And Grand Moff Kilran gives the Republic Team a good fight.

Man, they're really going through Dark Council members. 😬

What makes you think he lasts a long time, other than having a big healthbar? Anyway, sometimes dudes can just be really annoying to fight and take a while to die. It doesn't mean they're necessarily that great. Lukes fought people like that tons.

I don't recall anything about Kilran that suggested a good fight. Plus didn't he have some guys helping him?

I would hope so. Kilran being anything but a flunky boss would be utterly stupid.

He has this stupid high-powered sniper and a ton of elite goons but that's all I can remember.

I need bros to go work on elite flashpoints. My SI is just chilling his heels, doing DLC material to hit level cap.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Malgus would one-shot Kenobi then ragdoll Anakin while telling him that he hasn't had this much fun since the Sack of Coruscant.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Consider the analogy in a general sense:

It is an impressive feat that Sidious has accomplished (I even thought it was a badass high showing) and no one low-balls it or poo-poos it.

Malgus does something similar (and to be fair, either Nox or the Emperor's Wrath are better Force users than Maul or especially Savage) and there's a considerable amount of nay-saying, downplaying, etc.

That's a double-standard. Whether or not you think I'm talking directly to you is quite frankly, irrelevant (I'm not; I didn't have you in mind) The [b]general point still stands. A large majority of SW fans are film fans first, and will always favor film continuity over EU.

I don't share that viewpoint. Amusingly, I have been accused of hating film continuity, but this is bogus. The OT is for me, the purest form of Star Wars, and although I have some major issues with the PT (if only from years of analyzing it on these forums) I still read and enjoyed a good bit of PT EU, as well as watching all of the PT films many, many times.

I just don't see the point of coming to an EU sub-forum and belittling any combatant the moment he/she comes into conflict with a movie character. It's kind of boring and thought-terminating. I also think that a lot of these EU champions, villains and so on are meant to be comparable to movie champions and villains and are sometimes colored with themes or motifs to remind us of that fact. To write them off as inferior because they aren't in live-motion or they "exist in a video game" makes me ask "Why even include the characters in the first place if you aren't willing to discuss them objectively?"

So, take that for what you will. This is not my first time in a SW forum, and certainly not my first time debating with other people on the internet of all places. I'm just not rushing to sugar-coat my observations when the bullshit continues unabated. [/B]