Darth Malgus vs RotS Anakin and RotS Kenobi

Started by Intrepid379 pages

Understandable, he was pretty mad there.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Malgus hasn't had this much fun since the Sack of Coruscant.

Anakin is going to feel an Emperor's wrath!

Originally posted by Nephthys
The foundations have nothing to do with this! The buildings were pulled sideways not out of the ground. The foundations of a building are the very lowest point, barring basements. The buildings fell on top of Malgus. Duuuh! >_<

Yes, but a building that's supports and foundation are weakened will be far easier to bring down than a building that was just built yesterday and didn't have a bomb dropped next to it.

Anakin has superior force strength speed and endurance feats and he is arguably more skilled while Obi Wan's form would help him last throughout the duel or at least slow Malgus down enough for Anakin to take Malgus out. Along with that hello everyone I'm new. ;P

Hey.

I disagree on all your points. Malgus kicked someone through a stone column, was keeping up with Aryn Leneer who was fast enough to seem to be in multiple places at once and had a moment seem like minute to her and Malgus could still fight while grievously injured on Alderaan. Obi-Wan will be no help here as Malgus can take him out with the Force easily.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Yes, but a building that's supports and foundation are weakened will be far easier to bring down than a building that was just built yesterday and didn't have a bomb dropped next to it.

I see absolutely no reason why. And theres no proof the building was structurally weakened at all. You're barking up the wrong tree. If we keep going with this I'll have to start bringing up those ricocheting blaster bolts with regards to Anakin's feat. Possibly having slightly weakened foundations is nothing compared to have blaster bolts being fired into the ceiling at the time Anakin screamed.

Obi Wan is not weak enough in the force to be taken out easily by Malgus who does not have all that impressive feats anyways. Especially when he and Anakin are working together and Anakin outstrips Malgus in almost every way.

Originally posted by Nephthys

I see absolutely no reason why. And theres no proof the building was structurally weakened at all. You're barking up the wrong tree. If we keep going with this I'll have to start bringing up those ricocheting blaster bolts with regards to Anakin's feat. Possibly having slightly weakened foundations is nothing compared to have blaster bolts being fired into the ceiling at the time Anakin screamed.

And if you did I'd simply say a building having a bomb dropped next to it is going to be far less stable than a building that is shot by a gun.

There is evidence that a bomb was dropped in the vicinity (craters), and that it was in close proximity to the building (windows blown out). Not that it matters because Malgus didn't pull the buildings down...the Jedi did. All Malgus did was emerge from the rubble.

What is the above discussion about?

In a short story a Jedi telekinetically pulls two large buildings down on a heavily wounded Malgus. Malgus holds up the rubble and blows it away before emerging and one-shotting the Jedi with the Force.

They're arguing that Anakin collapsing a dome in Labyrinth of Evil is way more impressive than what that Jedi did.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Obi Wan is not weak enough in the force to be taken out easily by Malgus who does not have all that impressive feats anyways. Especially when he and Anakin are working together and Anakin outstrips Malgus in almost every way.

Obi-Wan was weak enough to be taken out easily by Dooku, he'll be taken out even easier by Malgus. Anakin outstrips Malgus in nothing other than hair.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
And if you did I'd simply say a building having a bomb dropped next to it is going to be far less stable than a building that is shot by a gun.

There is evidence that a bomb was dropped in the vicinity (craters), and that it was in close proximity to the building (windows blown out). Not that it matters because Malgus didn't pull the buildings down...the Jedi did. All Malgus did was emerge from the rubble.

I'd ask you to prove that assertion.

The craters and shattered windows could have been from Force use. Malgus blows out windows in Deceived when he punts a crowd away. Malgus held up a veritable mountain of rubble and blew it away with enough force to crash into adjacent buildings and then he pwned that Jedi. It also states that 'Malgus could have ended the Jedi's life in any of several ways, but needed the satisfaction of a lightsaber kill.' So it's not as if he couldn't have beaten him with TK if he'd wanted to.

That's not really true, Neph.

I never lie.

Dooku was a far superior force wielder and duelist then Obi Wan and also managed to take him by surprise. Malgus is nowhere near the level of skill in either the force or dueling then Dooku was. Along with that Anakin has cracked the stone underneath Ventress from the sheer force of his blows which far exceed any strength feats Malgus has he has also ran so fast he could only be seen as a blur and has created afterimages from how fast he's swung his blade. He has also had far greater Telekinetic feats as he's moved ships and huge boulders and collapsed temples before.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Obi Wan is not weak enough in the force to be taken out easily by Malgus who does not have all that impressive feats anyways. Especially when he and Anakin are working together and Anakin outstrips Malgus in almost every way.

Lol

Kenobi has been consistently taken out by force attacks from just about every darksider in CW. He has very weak force defenses, and he's a comparable duelist to Malgus. If he gets hit by a TK wave from Malgus he's gonna get hurt, and Malgus has better non PIS/less stalemates and inconclusive duel showings than Kenobi. Kenobi fought the same people over and over without beating them, won duels simply because the plot demanded it, and has weak force defense as highlighted by him getting taken out by Dooku, Ventress, Maul, and Savage proves more or less he can't do anything against Malgus's formidable TK

Malgus has killed people in saber combat ten times faster than Kenobi, so I'm not sure how he is "comparable".

Originally posted by carthage
Lol

Kenobi has been consistently taken out by force attacks from just about every darksider in CW. He has very weak force defenses, and he's a comparable duelist to Malgus. If he gets hit by a TK wave from Malgus he's gonna get hurt, and Malgus has better non PIS/less stalemates and inconclusive duel showings than Kenobi. Kenobi fought the same people over and over without beating them, won duels simply because the plot demanded it, and has weak force defense as highlighted by him getting taken out by Dooku, Ventress, Maul, and Savage proves more or less he can't do anything against Malgus's formidable TK

Regardless of whether it was for the plot or not Obi Wan has beaten enemies like Ventress before same as she's beaten him and I don't recall Savage or him ever fighting or if they did for more then a moment then there was no conclusive Windu. Maul was a far superior opponent and the reason he got beaten in the force was because though he wasn't impossibly far below his enemies he was not as powerful in the force. Obi Wan is a capable enough duelist to hold off Malgus for a while and I agree he would be beaten eventually but with Anakin together they stomp and in fact Anakin alone stomps.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Malgus has killed people in saber combat ten times faster than Kenobi, so I'm not sure how he is "comparable".

Correction Malgus has killed unnamed and featless Jedi 10 times faster then Obiwan.

And Kenobi has only beaten his major duels like Maul (TPM) and Darth Vader (ROTS) due to PIS/plot armor.

People really overrate him as a fighter, he's good but he isn't that good.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I never lie.

The Jedi was feigning weakness, so Malgus musing that he could kill him in several ways doesn't apply.

I didn't say he was some sort of godly duelist I just said that his defense would allow him to keep pace or at least survive against Malgus for quite a while before falling and with Anakin there it's a stomp.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Correction Malgus has killed unnamed and featless Jedi 10 times faster then Obiwan.

Obi-Wan lost to newb Ventress in seconds, bro.

You have no argument. So stahp.