Originally posted by Nephthys
Calm down dude. I'm not attacking Sidious. I'm trying to point out how stupid it is to seperate canon and legends and still do these threads. No need to get so mad at me, Ant has already said that Sidious' legends feats are in.I'm pretty sure I'm not the mad one here.
I'm not mad at you. I'm just disappointed.
What's the point in debating with you if you're going to discard feats without any logical explanation? Regardless of whether or not Ant changed the stipulations, you were still willing to dismiss a feat just because you didn't like it.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
I'm not mad at you. I'm just disappointed.What's the point in debating with you if you're going to discard feats without any logical explanation? Regardless of whether or not Ant changed the stipulations, you were still willing to dismiss a feat just because you didn't like it.
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
A non-existing point can't be missed. Unless you're referring to Neph's complaint on using Legend characters vs canon characters, which wasn't my point: something you must have missed.
BTW, Neph, I ain't going to lie, you did play a part in ruining my buzz, which is easy to do depending on how hard I'm buzzing.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
A non-existing point can't be missed. Unless you're referring to Neph's complaint on using Legend characters vs canon characters, which wasn't my point: something you must have missed.BTW, Neph, I ain't going to lie, you did play a part in ruining my buzz, which is easy to do depending on how hard I'm buzzing.
So you're buzzing? This explains your antsy behavior about your waifu, Sidious.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
I'm not mad at you. I'm just disappointed.What's the point in debating with you if you're going to discard feats without any logical explanation? Regardless of whether or not Ant changed the stipulations, you were still willing to dismiss a feat just because you didn't like it.
Ow, that stings.
I assure you, I would have had logical explanations had we continued to discuss it. I don't dismiss things because I don't like them, with the exception of incredibly retarded things.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Considering Yoda is his equal in combat, and seeing how vaapad no longer exists, perhaps Mace is just naturally as fast as Sidious (or at least fast enough to keep up until he can find an opening to exploit), thus making the new canon Windu even greater than he was in the EU, which should make this an even easier win for the PT characters.
Well even in official canon since Dooku kept up with Yoda's speed in AOTC, it makes sense Windu wouldn't just be blitzed by Sidious.
And I've always argued Windu's win over Sidious was context specific anyway, and not just down to "VAPAAD BEATS ALL DARKSIDERS!" Dave Filoni argued with Kenobi vs Maul Brothers, that every fight is different, and whilst Obi-Wan and Ventress were going to lose to Maul and Opress in One specific fight, Kenobi alone wasn't going to lose to both Brothers in another specific situation.
So the 2nd most powerful Jedi defeated Sidious in one specific situation, where the 3 Council members probably aided more so than it appeared. But later the Most Powerful Jedi failed to defeat the Emperor in a one on one, with no distractions by other combatants and with plenty of opportunity to use their full Force powers against each other.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Well even in official canon since Dooku kept up with Yoda's speed in AOTC, it makes sense Windu wouldn't just be blitzed by Sidious.And I've always argued Windu's win over Sidious was context specific anyway, and not just down to "VAPAAD BEATS ALL DARKSIDERS!" Dave Filoni argued with Kenobi vs Maul Brothers, that every fight is different, and whilst Obi-Wan and Ventress were going to lose to Maul and Opress in One specific fight, Kenobi alone wasn't going to lose to both Brothers in another specific situation.
So the 2nd most powerful Jedi defeated Sidious in one specific situation, where the 3 Council members probably aided more so than it appeared. But later the Most Powerful Jedi failed to defeat the Emperor in a one on one, with no distractions by other combatants and with plenty of opportunity to use their full Force powers against each other.
Even without specific names for their styles, people are just better match ups for each other. They fight differently even when not speaking of specific martial arts, so Mace still could be just better suited still.
Originally posted by Lek Kuen
Even without specific names for their styles, people are just better match ups for each other. They fight differently even when not speaking of specific martial arts, so Mace still could be just better suited still.
That's true. Lucas says in the ROTS audio commentary that every Jedi fights with a different style. And I think TCW has been respectful to the forms in a lot of ways. They've made it clear that Dooku is a one handed fencer, and that Kenobi's style is primarily defensive.
And it's already clear from Kenobi vs Dooku vs Anakin vs Kenobi that styles and forms and knowledge of your opponent do come into play.
So on top of what I've said above, I'm sure Windu's more style would be better suited to tackle Sidious in a sword fight than Yoda's or Dooku's (who I still see as Mace's equal).
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Or Sidious threw the fight. I like that one.
Lol I'm sure you do.
But whether he threw the fight or not, Lucas did confirm Mace can compete against him. So I'm just making up reasons why Mace would be able to even though Dooku couldn't.
Spoiler:
I just don't want to admit Mace may be more powerful than Dooku 😠