Originally posted by carver9
I think he brought up Warlock because it shows Vulcan can manipulate and control magical energy as well.
That was obvious. My point was that mage Warlock lacked any decent showings against this type of manipulation, whereas Strange, at least Classic, was not such a noob. It's a valid showing for those backing Vulcan here, but is far from an insta-win.
Originally posted by Digi
Strange is NOT equivalent to this weaksauce incarnation of Warlock.
doesn't really matter. it seemed apparent to me that all it had to do with energy and he seemed to manipulate magic effortlessly. Strange would only mean more magic for him to manipulate. Oh and by the way I hate Vulcan
Originally posted by Warlord
doesn't really matter. it seemed apparent to me that all it had to do with energy and he seemed to manipulate magic effortlessly. Strange would only mean more magic for him to manipulate. Oh and by the way I hate Vulcan
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Don't think this is a fight Strange can win. By the way, Vulcan is an amazing character.
Originally posted by Warlord
doesn't really matter. it seemed apparent to me that all it had to do with energy and he seemed to manipulate magic effortlessly. Strange would only mean more magic for him to manipulate. Oh and by the way I hate Vulcan
Not all magic is equivalent. Strange draws from multiple pantheons and dimensions. And it's debatable whether or not Warlock's "quantum magic" was indeed the same type of magic Strange uses. It was so vaguely described that it might have just been more traditional atomic energy manipulation.
We're not going to get anywhere in a "yes/no" debate here. My only point is that it's laughable to dismiss Strange entirely based on the Warlock showing.
Originally posted by Warlord
the rational is for me that Vulcan hasn't found a type of energy that couldn't manipulate. if Strange manages to properly complete a spell then he can win by the byproduct of this spell, however I can just see Vulcan manipulating/draining/redirecting Strange's energy before the spell is complete
Thinking too linearly. What happens if Strange decides to take the battle to the astral plane, or something even less exotic like going intangible? It's not just blast vs. manipulation.
Originally posted by Digicould be... thing is I can't predict what can Vulcan do ith manipualting magic. Mess with the spells maybe? or maybe nothing at all?
Thinking too linearly. What happens if Strange decides to take the battle to the astral plane, or something even less exotic like going intangible? It's not just blast vs. manipulation.
Originally posted by Warlord
could be... thing is I can't predict what can Vulcan do ith manipualting magic. Mess with the spells maybe? or maybe nothing at all?
In any case, I agree that Strange shouldn't be writen off here since magic is probably the most unpredictable type of energy in comics I guess.
You're still too focused only on the manipulation. I just gave a couple possible avenues for a Strange victory that make Vulcan's manipulation impotent. There are undoubtedly others.
Originally posted by Warlord
the rational is for me that Vulcan hasn't found a type of energy that couldn't manipulate. if Strange manages to properly complete a spell then he can win by the byproduct of this spell, however I can just see Vulcan manipulating/draining/redirecting Strange's energy before the spell is complete
👆 this doesn't include the fact that he can control Strange energy from the inside out.
http://s209.photobucket.com/user/RespectThread/media-full/Vulcan/fights/fight%204/5.jpg.html
Vulcan power set gives him the ability to beat d*** near anybody.
