Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
No one Thanos level could do it either. Including Thanos.
Negative Big Buddy... Thanos could do it.. He's physically dominated Thor before and even just recently. He certainly could and has. In order to dominate him like the OP says.. it might be a somewhat high end showing for Thanos.. but I wouldn't put it past him either. He's Thor physical superior as you've noted.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Negative Big Buddy... Thanos could do it.. He's physically dominated Thor before and even just recently. He certainly could and has. In order to dominate him like the OP says.. it might be a somewhat high end showing for Thanos.. but I wouldn't put it past him either. He's Thor physical superior as you've noted.
Thanos is nowhere near strong enough to accomplish the requirements of this thread.
I don't think people are actually reading the OP. The opponent has to face Thor in melee combat and defeat him so badly, that he's bones are shattered.
Even Thanos isn't strong enough to damage Thor like that. As a matter of fact, I'd like to see a single piece of evidence supporting such capabilities. The closest would be him beating Surfer to near death, but even then, he didn't do anywhere near the damage the OP requires.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thanos is nowhere near strong enough to accomplish the requirements of this thread.I don't think people are actually reading the OP. The opponent has to face Thor in melee combat and defeat him so badly, that he's bones are shattered.
Even Thanos isn't strong enough to damage Thor like that. As a matter of fact, I'd like to see a single piece of evidence supporting such capabilities. The closest would be him beating Surfer to near death, but even then, he didn't do anywhere near the damage the OP requires.
I'm not too sure that I agree with you. Cain nearly did it during the 7th, and 8th Day. I don't think that Thor would have lived through that one if there was no intervention. But again, I'm not sure if that was a bad showing for Thor, or just the way that things would turn out if Cain was really in the zone.
Originally posted by abhilegend
I'd say Bor would like to have a word with you. Thor himself admitted Bor would've killed him after he broke OF Thor's ribs with a glancing hit.So? They stopped eventually, didn't they? Why is this so hard for you to grasp that Destroyer would maul Thor after a while?
What do you mean glancing? Are you implying it was only a partial blow?
I will admit however that I had forgotten about his fight with Bor.
So now we have two instances of his bones being broken:
- A weakened Thor against an amped Destroyer.
- Bor while taken by surprise by his power.
As far as records go, that is pretty crazy. Especially when we list of all the beings who have beaten on Thor.
Originally posted by abhilegend
In Superman/Thor discussions? Sure thing bro.http://herochat.com/forum/index.php?topic=254940.80
Really? I don't think Superman was ever in danger of dying from being crushed by a crushing machine.
http://i.imgur.com/kw2hQsj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/G1J9oJp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UgIV5LQ.jpgI could post numerous such examples. But who cares.
I already made it clear to you where I view Thor/Superman in durability.
You seem to be very excited about linking to that discussion. If you're so confident, do you want to make a battle zone?
A machine made by the Molecule Man. 😐 It would have also killed Surfer. How does referencing a being with this much power support your point?
Originally posted by abhilegend
All of them would break Thor's bones too. And Bor while being amped broke his ribs with a glancing hit, Ulik was dusting his bones etc. You see Superman getting his bones broken by Doomsday or Zod or Probes is an "OMGWTF" scene. Thor getting his bones broken isn't. And even that amped Destroyer wasn't as strong as H/P Doomsday who is the only one to do something like that in a fight. Sif took a bunch of attacks from it in the same issue where it broke Thor's arm. I can't see Sif taking an attack from Doomsday and standing. Lulz, you are so full of yourself its outright comical.
No, they, really wouldn't. It'd have to be an extreme outlier.
Ulik was hurting Thor with his barrage but he didn't cause any real injury.
So we know that the Destroyer is in itself ridiculously strong, and in this instance, it was amped by the Designate, who herself can access high end Skyfather power, but it's not as strong as Doomsday? Lol.
Yes, she did. Good feat for Sif, the Asgardians, even the weaker ones like Heimdall, Balder, Volstagg, Sif etc. are an incredibly sturdy lot. They've survived some crazy shit over the years.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Hahaha, so now Thor was hyperboling about his own health? Strange how that works.Its called holding back rage. Thor can't hold back his durability though. Adrenaline rush. People in real life can do so too.
You are using "dynamic strength" too often nowadays.
And since Wolverine didn't cut off KT's arm according to thorbags, either Hulk or Thing tore off Thor's entire arm in reigning.
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I don't think Ulik was literally turning his bones to dust or whatever. He was literally unharmed the next panel. If he was significantly damage or perhaps showed some sign of injury, I would agree. This contradiction is easily explainable by Thor's state of depression and weakness at the time. His muscles were also sore and exhausted. Until Ulik pissed him off.
Actually, I could easily make a case for Thor being able to hold back his durability. We've seen his own belief and faith literally define his physical form as recently as Fraction's run.
Adrenaline Rush in real life? 😂 Thanks for confirming you aren't from this planet.
Thor has literally struck harder and tanked damage that was previously hurting him AFTER an extended fight.
Yes, Thor did lose an arm fighting Thing AND the Hulk. After HOURS of extended combat. Not to mention the two could have easily been targeting his already injured arm.
Originally posted by Stoic
I'm not too sure that I agree with you. Cain nearly did it during the 7th, and 8th Day. I don't think that Thor would have lived through that one if there was no intervention. But again, I'm not sure if that was a bad showing for Thor, or just the way that things would turn out if Cain was really in the zone.
What are you talking about?
Cain nearly choked Thor out but there is a HUGE difference between getting someone in a hold and taking the breath out of them and literally breaking their bones and shit.
Are people not reading the OP? It's not about who can beat Thor in a melee fight.
Also, Cain was amped immensely for that one particular issue.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thanos is nowhere near strong enough to accomplish the requirements of this thread.I don't think people are actually reading the OP. The opponent has to face Thor in melee combat and defeat him so badly, that he's bones are shattered.
Even Thanos isn't strong enough to damage Thor like that. As a matter of fact, I'd like to see a single piece of evidence supporting such capabilities. The closest would be him beating Surfer to near death, but even then, he didn't do anywhere near the damage the OP requires.
This isn't close to true... Beating somebody to death is CLOSER and DOING MORE damage than the OP requires... The OP requires thor to have broke arms or legs and teeth knocked out... basically messed up... You can be that messed up and not close to death... Thanos beating somebody close to death is actually doing more damage.
Originally posted by abhilegend
He would. Easily at that.
Now not only will Doomsday certainly accomplish something everyone from the Hulk to Silver Age Mangog have not done, he'll do it easily? Lol.
If you said it was a possibility, that would be believable. Comics after all can be weird (Ex: Superman withstood a beating from the same Doomsday without such damage IIRC), but you can't help yourself, eh?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What are you talking about?Cain nearly choked Thor out but there is a HUGE difference between getting someone in a hold and taking the breath out of them and literally breaking their bones and shit.
Are people not reading the OP? It's not about who can beat Thor in a melee fight.
Also, Cain was amped immensely for that one particular issue.
I read the OP. I don't know what would have stopped Cain from fulfilling the OP in that instance though. I mean if he KO'd Thor, what would have stopped him from doing just what the OP asks for? You really think that he was vastly amplified? I thought that he was forcibly tapping deeper into the enchantment, due to plot line.
Originally posted by Stoic
I read the OP. I don't know what would have stopped Cain from fulfilling the OP in that instance though. I mean if he KO'd Thor, what would have stopped him from doing just what the OP asks for? You really think that he was vastly amplified? I thought that he was forcibly tapping deeper into the enchantment, due to plot line.
If he knocked out Thor, that doesn't mean he'd be able to easily accomplish the OP.
Thor's durability doesn't just vanish because he's out. A herald as tough as Thor would still be ridiculously hard to kill and damage like the OP suggestts.
Yes, that issue notes in particular that he was amped. Thor said akin to a hundred fold, but that was probably hyperbole. Still, the intention was clear.
But it was only this particular issue. The rest of the event and Juggernaut's interaction with the Exemplars had him at his regular levels.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
If he knocked out Thor, that doesn't mean he'd be able to easily accomplish the OP.Thor's durability doesn't just vanish because he's out. A herald as tough as Thor would still be ridiculously hard to kill and damage like the OP suggestts.
Yes, that issue notes in particular that he was amped. Thor said akin to a hundred fold, but that was probably hyperbole. Still, the intention was clear.
But it was only this particular issue. The rest of the event and Juggernaut's interaction with the Exemplars had him at his regular levels.
Very true. Now what do you think of the Perrikus battle? I mean when they first fought, and Thor reverted to his mortal guise? Do you think that Perikus had a chance of fulfilling the OP? Also do you view Thanos as being below Perrikus? I know how durable Thor is, but in my opinion there are guys out there that could break him. How do you think Tyrant would do against the OP?
Originally posted by Stoic
Very true. Now what do you think of the Perrikus battle? I mean when they first fought, and Thor reverted to his mortal guise? Do you think that Perikus had a chance of fulfilling the OP? Also do you view Thanos as being below Perrikus? I know how durable Thor is, but in my opinion there are guys out there that could break him. How do you think Tyrant would do against the OP?
Are you asking me if Perrikus can break Jake Olsen? Lol, yes I do. Jake Olsen was noticeably more durable then a regular human (A side effect of being Thor's host I'd guess) but it only goes so far.
Perrikus is below Thanos imo. Still easily a High Herald though.
Tyrant would have a better chance then Thanos.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Are you asking me if Perrikus can break Jake Olsen? Lol, yes I do. Jake Olsen was noticeably more durable then a regular human (A side effect of being Thor's host I'd guess) but it only goes so far.Perrikus is below Thanos imo. Still easily a High Herald though.
Tyrant would have a better chance then Thanos.
Well before he reverted to Olsen ha ha, it looked as if Thor was taking the worst of the exchange. If a high Herald could do that to Thor, what does that make Thor? I viewed Perrikus as being a step above High Herald. Unless I missed something?
