Revan Vs Kit Fisto, Saesee Tiin and Agen Kolar

Started by DarthAnt667 pages

You face a dozens Dark Jedi with getting sprayed at by Sith Troopers in a small, compressed area which is just a walk way. Revan would be facing as many Dark Jedi that can fit in the walkway as possible (a dozen), and once he clears that, the next wave will come, and the following. My claim is correct.

To further support my claim:
"a large number of Dark Jedi crowding this thin, lit walkway. Wade into the fray and execute a number of techniques of your choosing, cutting a swath through the assembled troops until all have fallen.

Originally posted by carthage
I agree, but even as featless as he is. He has just about as much going on for him as most of the Jedi council.

"featless"
*motions to the corpse of Darth Malak one of the strongest swordsman of his time
"featless"
*motions to bloodied corpse of Calo Nord
"featless"
*motions to the Force Storm he was able to conjure up against the imperial strike team
"featless"
*motions to the dead corpse of Mandalore the Ultimate and Yusanis

yeah, 'featless'....

Meteors are n-canon even when dealing with the previous canon system

by that logic all of the three jedi master's feats are also n-canon and the only thing they have going for them is, surviving genosia and dying at the hands of a sith lord.
The assorted performances of B team > Revan's N cannon feats and tons of vague and poorly elaborated accolades barring whatever he did in the Crapshyn novel

oh your serious, please see above.

Prove that that was a sabers only feat
even if it wasn't It would still be impressive, considering not many Jedi can duel another jedi and simultaneously deflect blaster fire.

Revan stomps while riding Malak's shoulders

I like you moose, you make laugh.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
You are saying defeating at least 100 Dark Jedi with an incredible amp is lesser then beating Grievous? Incredible.
a bunch of weak under average mook dark jedi?

The Dark Jedi that Revan fought onboard the Star Forge were by no means special, but I wouldn't call them weak either. They were stronger than your average Jedi during the Mandalorian Wars era, and their powers are amplified by the Star Forge's nexus of Dark Side Energy.

That being said, while Revan did kill dozens of Dark Jedi during his trek of the Star Forge, there is absolutely no evidence to support him fighting dozens at a time. Your quote is meaningless, we know there are "many" warriors that opposed Revan on the Star Forge. It does not mean what you are implying.

Not only that, but on a "thin lit walkway" the Dark Jedi do not have the normal advantages posed by a large group of Force Sensitives. At maximum, one or two of these warriors could stand side-by-side on the walkway, they couldn't flank Revan nor apply effective teamwork.

Don't get me wrong--It's a very impressive feat, something that only a higher caliber swordsman could accomplish, but it's not something outside of General Grievous's capabilities, much less outside of the capabilities of *three* Jedi Swordsmiths of that caliber.

For the sake of comparison, I'd redirect you to the Legacy comics. Shado Vao and Antares Draco took on a couple dozen Sith during their expedition to Korriban. There were two of them, but they were also surrounded, flanked, and the numbers were arguably greater than what Revan faced at any single time on the SF.

It's a nice try, but Revan can't take three high-end master level opponents at the same time. Hell, Anakin and Dooku probably wouldn't be able to either without favoring circumstances on their side.

Revan isn't beating three of them at once.

Plus the strike team wins because I like prequal era more then the old republic era

The Dark Jedi that Revan fought onboard the Star Forge were by no means special

Most Powerful Nexus + Being Able to hold there own against Bastila Shan + Knows Force Lightning and Force Drain=More powerful then an average powerful Jedi Knight.
there is absolutely no evidence to support him fighting dozens at a time.

At one point it says Revan encounters a "large number" at once, yes, not in a stretch, but at once. It is said in total of this narrow, small walkway, there were dozen(s), so it is logical to assume the "large number" at to be at least one dozen if the total was several dozen.

Not only that, but on a "thin lit walkway" the Dark Jedi do not have the normal advantages posed by a large group of Force Sensitives. At maximum, one or two of these warriors could stand side-by-side on the walkway, they couldn't flank Revan nor apply effective teamwork.

There is enough room for at least 5 Dark Jedi in front of Revan, not even counting the sides and Revan's behind. He could be facing max around 14 Sith at once, which matches what I said above ^

Don't get me wrong--It's a very impressive feat, something that only a higher caliber swordsman could accomplish, but it's not something outside of General Grievous's capabilities, much less outside of the capabilities of *three* Jedi Swordsmiths of that caliber.

You are really underestimating this feat. Grievous was incapable of defeating Koth and some gungans, to say he can replicate this is bullshit.
For the sake of comparison, I'd redirect you to the Legacy comics. Shado Vao and Antares Draco took on a couple dozen Sith during their expedition to Korriban. There were two of them, but they were also surrounded, flanked, and the numbers were arguably greater than what Revan faced at any single time on the SF.

What comic?. I have read some comics in Legacy and it was about a dozen Sith versus Cade, Vao, and various others.
Hell, Anakin and Dooku probably wouldn't be able to either without favoring circumstances on their side.

Yes they could.

1.) A large number doesn't equate to a dozen in any book, especially when across the entire Star Forge he fought "dozens" rather than "hundreds" of Dark Jedi.

2.) Conceded, though I doubt more than three would squish together on that walkway without anyone falling off, while simultaneously trying to fight Revan. XD

3.) Since when is Grievous is incapable of defeating Koth? The good General has posed an equal match for both Obi-Wan and Mace Windu.

4.) I believe the comic was in "Extremes", when Shado and Draco enter Korriban disguised as Sith but are caught.

5.) Anakin didn't handle one Obi-Wan so well. How is he going to handle three Jedi of that caliber at the same time?

Originally posted by NewGuy01

3.) Since when is Grievous is incapable of defeating Koth?

Since they fought in TCW.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
The good General has posed an equal match for both Obi-Wan and Mace Windu.

He's never been equal to either of them.

1.) He wasn't, by any definition losing that fight.

2.) He's fought evenly with Kenobi in almost every single battle they've been in, and his performance against Mace is a good indicator of his skill.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
1.) He wasn't, by any definition losing that fight.

So Koth successfully fighting Grievous off with a wounded arm, then TKing him against the wall disarming him, is not Grievous losing the one on one fight?

He was only able to capture Koth with the aid of multiple guards.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
2.) He's fought evenly with Kenobi in almost every single battle they've been in, and his performance against Mace is a good indicator of his skill.

I think you need to re-watch all TCW fights involving General Grievous.

There's only 1 instance when Kenobi retreated from Grievous, and all that was, was a saber lock then a kick from Grievous, then Grievous advancing with his superior forces.

Every other time Grievous has fought Kenobi he's run for his life. And Kenobi never had help. Not once. One time Kenobi beat down Grievous plus 2 Magnaguards. But Kenobi never once needed help beating down Grievous.

1.) A large number doesn't equate to a dozen in any book, especially when across the entire Star Forge he fought "dozens" rather than "hundreds" of Dark Jedi.

No, the entire Star Forge did not have "dozens", merely one section. Parts of that section are stated to have "countless." The entire ammount was said to be in the "armies".

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/large+number regonizes "that is above the average in size or magnitude." All other statstics on the Star Forge state "dozens", which would therefore be the average magnitude, which means "a large number" would therefore need to be greater then at least 24 warriors.

3.) Since when is Grievous is incapable of defeating Koth? The good General has posed an equal match for both Obi-Wan and Mace Windu.

Since the Clone Wars. Must I also refernece to his fight with Ventress or Tano?

4.) I believe the comic was in "Extremes", when Shado and Draco enter Korriban disguised as Sith but are caught.

I'll check it out when I get home.

5.) Anakin didn't handle one Obi-Wan so well. How is he going to handle three Jedi of that caliber at the same time?

The B-Team is not on the same level as Kenobi. Look at what Anakin did to the master swordsman, Cin Drallig.

2.) Conceded, though I doubt more than three would squish together on that walkway without anyone falling off, while simultaneously trying to fight Revan. XD

"Never underestimate the power of the Dark Side."

Originally posted by DarthAnt66

The B-Team is not on the same level as Kenobi. Look at what Anakin did to the master swordsman, Cin Drallig.

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I don't agree with Ant on many of his points about Revan's lightsaber ability and other things, but I do think that he has a good chance of winning this fight.

Lame. I plan on making an updated thread on Revan's lightsaber abilities on ComicVine and then posting the link here. The one I made in the EU section was quite poor compared to my Revan Respect Thread in general, which is my current crowning achievement in life.

Yeah, I'm the lame one.

Check out this sweet pic tho:

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LOL @ crowning achievement in life. Funny Ant.