Originally posted by StealthRanger
Why are you using a low outlier?
Scaling is an unreliable method and can easily be manipulated for inflated values if not implemented appropriately. So when you want to use an argument like Thor can hurt Galactus, you'll have start from the low-end of the spectrum Galactus' durability.
Originally posted by AstnerThat's also what I told him in another thread. He disagrees for some reason.
Because using high-end outliers to gauge Thor's striking power wouldn't make sense.Scaling is an unreliable method and can easily be manipulated for inflated values if not implemented appropriately. So when you want to use an argument like Thor can hurt Galactus, you'll have start from the low-end of the spectrum Galactus' durability.
Originally posted by StealthRanger
>implying Wolverine isn't constantly jobbed to by everyone and their dog in Marvel
>ignores that Thor has fought massively faster characters than Wolverine on many a occasion
>elitist chump talkahahahaha, oh wow
You honestly don't know what you are talking about if you think Thor is CLOSE to a DBZ characters speed. Read comics. Kid Goku is faster than Thor. Never mind his teen and Adult self. How about this...post some Thor combat fts.
Wait a second now, hasn't King Thor used localized time stops before? If so how does speed matter? Also hitting hard enough to warp America's shield or outright blow right through it, implicates that any one person in the DBZ Universe would likely be one shot killed. I don't think that he's taking on the entire universe, but I don't believe that any one toon from the DBZ verse has the goods to rise to his level.
Originally posted by Stoic
Wait a second now, hasn't King Thor used localized time stops before? If so how does speed matter? Also hitting hard enough to warp America's shield or outright blow right through it, implicates that any one person in the DBZ Universe would likely be one shot killed. I don't think that he's taking on the entire universe, but I don't believe that any one toon from the DBZ verse has the goods to rise to his level.
He has, but so have many DBZ characters that were dealt with.
Captain America's shield is pretty durable, but that's not exactly a good feat. At least not when you have Goku punching through a planet ten times denser than Earth, destroying base matter, and taking hits that can destroy reality itself.
Hell, to be honest, Krillin could probably take this on by himself.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
He has, but so have many DBZ characters that were dealt with.Captain America's shield is pretty durable, but that's not exactly a good feat. At least not when you have Goku punching through a planet ten times denser than Earth, destroying base matter, and taking hits that can destroy reality itself.
Hell, to be honest, Krillin could probably take this on by himself.
Breaking the shield is actually a good feat, the only characters that have done it via power have been skyfathers or above. People leagues above planetary power.
Anyway no DBZ character can even hurt King Thor. Assuming we take all of the King Thor arcs into consideration
Originally posted by Lek Kuen
Breaking the shield is actually a good feat, the only characters that have done it via power have been skyfathers or above. People leagues above planetary power.Anyway no DBZ character can even hurt King Thor. Assuming we take all of the King Thor arcs into consideration
Hmm, really? I seem to remember Serpent breaking it pretty casually, someone whose arguably not even planetary level. Btw, planetary level is nothing compared to the reality shattering screams seen by high tier DBZ characters.
Show me a durability feat/statement from Thor that can outweigh SSJ3 tier characters throwing around and tanking universe/reality level attacks like they're fodder.
Originally posted by Stoic
I think Omega Shenron would be a great match up for King Thor.
Uh, King Thor would shit on Omega Shenron, going by feats alone. If scaling and statements count, then Omega Shenron eats DC for breakfast, minus the universal abstracts, and then wipes his mouth with Thor's mullet. GT isn't cannon though, so statements don't count, meaning we have to go by GT set feats, meaning Thor mushroom stamps Omega's head with his Asgardian dick.
Originally posted by SSJGGogetaHmm, really? I seem to remember Serpent breaking it pretty casually, someone whose arguably not even planetary level. Btw, planetary level is nothing compared to the reality shattering screams seen by high tier DBZ characters.
Show me a durability feat/statement from Thor that can outweigh SSJ3 tier characters throwing around and tanking universe/reality level attacks like they're fodder.
Serpent was on par with Odin so yeah he is a skyfather.
And are you really arguing that dbz characters are > universal power because of their silly dimensional wall screams. If so it's pointless to even debate as you'll have black hair goku being able to one shot existence.
But King Thor had a length fight with a bloodlusted Galactus who shits on DBZ feats wise unless you want to argue that timechamber scream means that are all high end reality warpers. O
I'm really digging King Thor vs Galactus, my favorite part was probably this
I'm eagerly looking forward to the next installment though, I'm curious as to what King Thor's gonna do with the Necrosword o.o
Although I miss Young Thor, I wish he'd just show up and give Galactus the same treatment he gave Gorr 😛
Originally posted by Lek Kuen
Serpent was on par with Odin so yeah he is a skyfather.And are you really arguing that dbz characters are > universal power because of their silly dimensional wall screams. If so it's pointless to even debate as you'll have black hair goku being able to one shot existence.
But King Thor had a length fight with a bloodlusted Galactus who shits on DBZ feats wise unless you want to argue that timechamber scream means that are all high end reality warpers. O
No he's not, lol. IIRC, Serpent had a hard time with Thor alone.
Well, yeah. You basically just admitted that you can't disprove it, or the fact that there have also been other universe level characters in DBZ, black hair Goku pretty much does one-shot most of these characters. He can't do the whole "existence" thing until SSJ3 though. 😉
Pfft, Galactus? He's a p*ssy in all honesty. He has some impressive feats, but again, they are dwarfed by DBZ high tiers like I've just shown. Plus, they could just use the dragon balls to wish that the fantastic four was there. 😖hifty: