Originally posted by Nephthys
Yeah, Carthage, its really stupid. Just because Bane is a slightest fraction slower and weaker than he used to be doesn't put him below other characters.
Its a reason to put him in doubt, especially since the vast majority of his feats are him either amped, armored, and or boosted by some extra source. He isn't as skilled without his orbalisks, he could barely beat his own student for god sake and she was hardly a swordsman in her own right
Why people feel the need to fellate over him is funny.
Originally posted by carthageexcuse me Zannah is one of the best Soresu masters of all time, she is downplayed far to often. Also not being able to beat your student. That's the whole point of the Rule of Two, the student surpasses the master. The fact that Zannah stood her own against Bane is not a strike against Bane, that is a testimate to Zannahs power and skill. Also Bane was trained as a duelist by the greatest swordsman of that Era and Bane proved a challenge for a jedi blades master, and he was in control of the battle against Zannah up until she used Tendrils.
Its a reason to put him in doubt, especially since the vast majority of his feats are him either amped, armored, and or boosted by some extra source. He isn't as skilled without his orbalisks, he could barely beat his own student for god sake and she was hardly a swordsman in her own rightWhy people feel the need to fellate over him is funny.
Why you feel the need to undermine him is confusing
Before Carthage jumps in and says that she's a shitty duelist because she tripped, I'd like to point out that tripping while under Bane's offensive pressure and managing to get back up isn't as bad as say... Shaak Ti being killed by Starkiller flailing his lightsaber when she had every advantage, but Shaak Ti is still renown as a master duelist.
Originally posted by carthage
Its a reason to put him in doubt, especially since the vast majority of his feats are him either amped, armored, and or boosted by some extra source. He isn't as skilled without his orbalisks, he could barely beat his own student for god sake and she was hardly a swordsman in her own rightWhy people feel the need to fellate over him is funny.
Actually, Zannah notes that Bane drastically refined his swordsmanship after losing the orbalisks. And Bane still has incredible feats without external sources. That he lost to his student isn't unimpressive, its just the Rule of Two actually working.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Somebody who's "no good" doesn't pose a challenge to somebody who is "perhaps the greatest duelist of all time," or outmaneuver the BM invigorated top duelist of the Jedi Order. You are very clearly under rating Bane by a huge amount.
Lol they never had a chance against him. He was amped and had protection, not to mention all of them apart from Raskta (who would've killed Bane) were featless mooks.
So what if they had battle med? They had the odds stacked against them, against an opponent who had too many perks in his favor. He isn't skilled at at all, he had armor, cute nexuses to make him 00BER, and even admitted he was slow and weak. He'd be no match for any higher tier Sith, and his best feats were when he had additional factors helping him.
Originally posted by carthage
No reason to believe that, he fought no one by merit of his own skills sans the orbalisk armor since the fight he was losing to Kas'sim on in his youth. He even lost his fight with Zannah. He's no good.
"His style back then had been brutish and simple, though undeniably effective. Now, however, his technique was more advanced. Unable to simply bully his way heedlessly forward, he had developed an unpredictable, seemingly random style. Each time she thought she could anticipate where the next attack was coming from, he changed tactics, disrupting the rhythm of the battle and causing her to give ground."
Bane lost to Zannah's sorcery, not her lightsaber skills. 🙄
He wasn't strong enough to break her defense. He sucked, was weak, and lost to yet another pronounced weakness (that wasn't Jar Kai). He's not as skilled as you raging fanboys make him out to be. Come off it. If he was so strong he'd have broken her defense and killed her, after all he can rip off durasteel doors. But no his bald ass got beaten by a weaker fighter.
Come on Neph you can do better than this.
Neph actually has points well made.
Bane lost because Zannah was just THAT good at Soresu. That was the ENTIRE basis of her fighting style, since she couldn't put the raw strength in that someone like Bane could. Soresu is amazing at dealing with raw strength.
Obi-Wan lasted as long as Anakin over that entire Mustafar duel, even though he was physically outmatched and dominated.
Bane, while being a 'fraction' slower and all, is still a powerhouse with a saber, especially with his refined technique.
Hero of Tython wins, but that's not because Bane is easy fodder.