Originally posted by UltimateAnomaly
Neph actually has points well made.Bane lost because Zannah was just THAT good at Soresu. That was the ENTIRE basis of her fighting style, since she couldn't put the raw strength in that someone like Bane could. Soresu is amazing at dealing with raw strength.
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It astounds me that people underestimate Zannah as much as they do. Her defense is PRACTICALLY IMPENETRABLE. Bane pressing it as much as he did is a testament to his skills as a lightsaber duelist.
You're forgetting that, being her master and sole sparring partner, Bane knows absolutely everything about Zannah's technique and tendencies. On the other hand, Zannah comments that Bane had held back his true capabilities until that final fight.
Bane failed to break Zannah's defense despite being far more well versed in her fighting style than vice versa.
No shit, the person who taught her lightsaber combat knows her technique.
Bane taught her a style that was almost impenetrable. Him knowing it means all of jack ****ing shit. Its not as if theres some special technique to get around it, its a damn spinning wall. Wtf advantage is Banes intimate knowledge going to give him?
Originally posted by NewGuy01
If Bane has an idea of how she is going to defend, then he can break the flow of battle and attack from another angle. This is happening in the novel.
How she's going to defend is readily apparent from the spinning blades, you don't need knowledge of her style to know hows she is going to defend. Kind of how you can tell a fan is going to like, keep spinning just from looking at it.
Originally posted by carthage
Lol they never had a chance against him. He was amped and had protection, not to mention all of them apart from Raskta (who would've killed Bane) were featless mooks.So what if they had battle med? They had the odds stacked against them, against an opponent who had too many perks in his favor. He isn't skilled at at all, he had armor, cute nexuses to make him 00BER, and even admitted he was slow and weak. He'd be no match for any higher tier Sith, and his best feats were when he had additional factors helping him.
You also failed to respond to my point about Kas'im. After two years of training, Bane is capable of sending Kas'im into a desperate retreat, and only starts losing when such a blademaster pulled out something he had completely sabotaged Bane's training against.
So basically he sent an absolute blademaster into a desperate retreat and completely outmaneuvered a battle meditation invigorated blademaster, all before his prime, and your conclusion is that he sucks as a duelist?
Originally posted by Emperordmb
or outmaneuver the BM invigorated top duelist of the Jedi Order.
To be fair though he was hopped up on orbalisks at the time. The things that:
a) increase Force power
b) increase physical strength and speed
c) encase most of his body in lightsabre-proof armour
d) instantly heal any wounds he does get.
Yes I know he had the "feint and elbow Raskta in the ribs" bit which was an impressive display of skill. I'm just saying he had a ton of perks in that battle. In particular the "BM invigorated" stuff was countered by "hopped up on orbalisks."
Anyway, I think it would be a very tough fight but ultimately the Hero of Tython would prevail.
Originally posted by chilled monkey
To be fair though he was hopped up on orbalisks at the time. The things that:a) increase Force power
b) increase physical strength and speed
c) encase most of his body in lightsabre-proof armour
d) instantly heal any wounds he does get.
Yes I know he had the "feint and elbow Raskta in the ribs" bit which was an impressive display of skill. I'm just saying he had a ton of perks in that battle. In particular the "BM invigorated" stuff was countered by "hopped up on orbalisks."
Anyway, I think it would be a very tough fight but ultimately the Hero of Tython would prevail.