Shaw vs MOS Superman

Originally posted by Robtard
So win via BFR is what you're saying. Sorry, not allowed here (though that likely wouldn't work on Shaw)

Watch the film again; understand Shaw's powers. He's pretty much the anti to the brick Superman is.

Don't know Max very well, he happens to be correct here though.

Shaw was amped from the core. None of his abilities of absorbing before that showed any super human strength or the ability to reproduce them.

He cannot even replicate others powers and receives slight amp from mutants powers. He knew he had to amp from the core to contend with Magneto and the X Men.

He has zero brawling feats, he has zero super human feats on Superman's level.

Although IMO Shaw could absorb anything Superman throws at him (short of drowning or oxygen deprivation in space, etc), I don't see the whole "Superman can't lift him" thing happening. It doesn't sound like it would ever be depicted in a movie. If he could do that, couldn't he float in the air at will also? Raising yourself into the air raises your "gravitational potential energy state" and he could release the potential energy and then just levitate there also couldn't he? He would be kinda stuck though I would think. Is my thinking correct? I don't think this would happen.
Oh, could Shaw survive the vacuum of space on his physiology? Won't his blood boil just like everybody else's?

Originally posted by K-Dog
Although IMO Shaw could absorb anything Superman throws at him (short of drowning or oxygen deprivation in space, etc), I don't see the whole "Superman can't lift him" thing happening. It doesn't sound like it would ever be depicted in a movie. If he could do that, couldn't he float in the air at will also? Raising yourself into the air raises your "gravitational potential energy state" and he could release the potential energy and then just levitate there also couldn't he? He would be kinda stuck though I would think. Is my thinking correct? I don't think this would happen.
Oh, could Shaw survive the vacuum of space on his physiology? Won't his blood boil just like everybody else's?

If he can lift himself through the world engines gravity beam, he can lift shaw.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
If he can lift himself through the world engines gravity beam, he can lift shaw.

You logic is terrible and flat out ignores Shaw's power-set, simply because you want him to lose.

Originally posted by Robtard
Did the World Engine beam have some sort of energy absorption ability? No.

You logic is terrible and flat out ignores Shaw's power-set, simply because you want him to lose.

Show me screen feats of anything other then him being amped off a nuclear core to suggest he is on the level of superman.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Show me screen feats of anything other then him being amped off a nuclear core to suggest he is on the level of superman.

He's isn't as powerful as Superman normally.

Considering Shaw's powers though, Superman can't hurt him and will only make him stronger with each attack. What can't you grasp here?

Something tells me that MOS HAS a way to win. I just cant quite figure it out yet. I guess it all comes down to if he could figure out this undefined path to victory before Shaw absorbs too much energy.

I'm also not too sure about Supes not being able to fly him away but I kind of got to concede that point, considering I really have no examples to refute that my boy K Bake cant be lifted.

Okay time to watch First Class. Well played Rob.

I could say your logic is terrible based off screen feats and ignores superman's power set, simple because you want him to lose.

Originally posted by Robtard
He's isn't as powerful as Superman normally.

Considering Shaw's powers though, Superman can't hurt him and will only make him stronger with each attack. What can't you grasp here?

No his powers are drained as soon as he attacked, he was amped far above normal limits.

Why do you think he ran from Magento on the ship, he knew he was screwed. He knew in order to beat him he had to amp with nuclear energy.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I could say your logic is terrible based off screen feats and ignores superman's power set, simple because you want him to lose.

Considering you haven't been able to counter a single point I've made, I disagree. What of Superman's power-set have I ignored?

Let me try this way: How does Superman defeat Shaw here?

Originally posted by meep-meep
Something tells me that MOS HAS a way to win. I just cant quite figure it out yet. I guess it all comes down to if he could figure out this undefined path to victory before Shaw absorbs too much energy.

I'm also not too sure about Supes not being able to fly him away but I kind of got to concede that point, considering I really have no examples to refute that my boy K Bake cant be lifted.

Okay time to watch First Class. Well played Rob.

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If you find something logical, so be it.

Originally posted by Robtard
Considering you haven't been able to counter a single point I've made, I disagree. What of Superman's power-set have I ignored?

Let me try this way: How does Superman defeat Shaw here?

He ran from Magento on the ship because he knew he was doomed.. Please be real with yourself.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
He ran from Magento on the ship because he knew he was doomed.. Please be real with yourself.

He ran cos the ship was sinking. Please stop downplaying Shaw.

You also dodged the question: How does Superman defeat Shaw here?

Originally posted by Robtard
He ran cos the ship was sinking.

You also dodged the question: How does Superman defeat Shaw here?

Nope was running way before that when he saw what was headed his way. He's smart enough to know when to run and good enough at prep to know when he needs to amp to beat Magento.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Nope was running way before that when he saw what was headed his way. He's smart enough to know when to run and good enough at prep to know when he needs to amp to beat Magento.

Anyhow:

How does Superman defeat Shaw here?

Originally posted by Robtard
He ran cos the ship was sinking. Please stop downplaying Shaw.

You also dodged the question: How does Superman defeat Shaw here?

He defeats him by flying into him and destroying him.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
He defeats him by flying into him and destroying him.

So you're going to ignore that Shaw's powers would allow him to absorb the kinetic energy of that attack.

That's not debating; that's more akin to trolling. You're done, go take a nap.

Originally posted by Robtard
So you're going to ignore that Shaw's powers would allow him to absorb the kinetic energy of that attack.

That's not debating; that's more akin to trolling. You're done, go take a nap.

Nope he was never shown to be intangible, just absorbing, and he gets destroyed here as he cant stop or absorb superman. Please don't say he absorbs superman.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Nope he was never shown to be intangible, just absorbing, and he gets destroyed here as he cant stop or absorb superman. Please don't say he absorbs superman.

"Intangible" "absorbs Superman" WTF are you talking about. You're trolling, go take a nap.

Originally posted by Robtard
"Intangible" "absorbs Superman" WTF are you talking about. You're trolling, go take a nap.

The only way he could not be destroyed by Superman flying into him a super speed would be to be intangible correct? Since he cannot be intangible, He would have to try to absorb that attack of the dude flying at him at full power. Since he cannot absorb Superman, he would be broken and cut in half from that attack,

The attacks Magneto was unleashing on him the first battle were no were near that however he ran like crazy to leave. Upon his next encounter with Mag he prepped with nuclear energy.