DC and Marvel crossover into Starwars

Magneto *does* fight telekinesis with regularity. Magneto's not even high-end for some of the characters anyway...

Heck, let's go with someone who's not top-tier, but would be super hard for Jedi to deal with. Photon Monica Rambeau. She turns into energy. She blasts harder than any jedi or sith has ever stopped with force-absorb. She can absorb lightning coming at her. She's way too fast to be hit by force storm, death field, or the like. Strong will and, like most avengers, some anti-telepathy training.

DARTH POWER
If we are talking about Jedi like Anakin and Obi-Wan, I'd say they take all the street levelers like Spider-Man, Captain America and Wolverine.

Spider-man's actually rather significantly super. He's got spidey-sense which is a least equal to Jedi precog, he's got crazy-fast movement, agility, and reflexes, and his webs are very hard to deal with. And he can benchpress a buss.

Spider-man would be a difficult foe even for rather strong Jedi. Not unbeatable, but quite hard.

Why would they fight? Marvel/DC superheroes and Jedi/Republic people are on the same side.

If say, the Avengers appear somewhere on Coruscant, Luke (or Yoda depending on the era) will quickly show up to clear any misunderstandings.

Going back to Captain America, if he could use the Force he'd be an incredible Jedi because of his strong will and discipline. From a combat perspective he'd have his shield in one hand and a lightsabre (probably blue) in the other. He'd be all but untouchable in direct combat.

if u really wanna argue marvel/DC vs star wars in terms of OP abilities, be my f***ing guest. but I'm fairly certain that, say, Superman would defeat any force user in existence.

Spidermans webs get blocked by the lightsaber and yes he can move really fast but so can jedi. depending on the jedi even faster. Also super strength isn't the winning factor either since people like vader and malgus exist in starwars and people have been punched and kicked by them. Remember Malgus kicking ven across the room through a wall and still having enough momentum to break up the floor. Also if captian American throws his shield that is easy pickings for a jedi to just take as many jedi are skilled at throwing lightsaber which is much harder than a shield. Also hand to hand jedi are trained from being a toddler how to use martial arts so many of the higher skilled jedi may be on Captian Americas level, plus all the speeds, strength, tk, telepathy, what ever else that jedi knows

I doubt vader and malgus can bench press a ****in bus tho.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
I doubt vader and malgus can bench press a ****in bus tho.

They can with TK.

Maul and Savage have moved Jedi Craft.

So yeah someone like Maul, Kenobi or Skywalker should take Spider-Man.

Elites like Vader, Dooku or Mace should be able to take Human Torch or Storm or even IM.

I want to see Magneto resisting Tk, otherwise I would assume Yoda or Sidious can take him.

DC guys are too powerful though.

Highly doubt Yoda or Sidious can take Magneto. The average Jedi are better than the average street leveler if we go by feats performed by Kenobi in TPM.

The only questionable thing is powers like Force grip. Once you get past that the middle-high tier characters such as Iron Man become too much for most Force wielders.

Unless your a Force God such ad a peak Luke or Sidious characters like Magneto, Doom, Thor, Superman, etc shouldn't even notice.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Elites like Vader, Dooku or Mace should be able to take Human Torch or Storm or even IM.

I think you're seriously underestimating Storm, Human Torch and Iron-Man.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I think you're seriously underestimating Storm, Human Torch and Iron-Man.

Not really. Behind the weather/fire manipulation powers and hi-tech armor, they are still just human.

So if Yoda/Sidious can easily paralyze other powerful force users such as Ventress, Opress and Maul, then I see Vader, Dooku and Windu having no problem at all paralyzing people like Tony, Ororo or Johnny who have no natural defense against TK gripping their muscles.

Even in terms of sheer power Mace with a Force Blast can completely crush multiple destroyer droids and battle droids. That's not exactly a blast Storm or Torch would just shrug off. And Savage, who was well below Dooku in Force power, was flinging around Jedi craft, so just think at the kind of mass Vader, Dooku and Mace can fling at these guys.

And all this is just from mainstream movie canon. I've not even gone into Legends (which would be the more appropriate comparison against Marvel/DC Comic Book Canon feats.

Paralyzing them will do nothing to stop them from blasting the shit out of them. All of these characters have fought telekinetic opponents well above Vader and co.

That sheer power is nothing compared to comic feats bro. Storm can block Cyclop's optic blasts, these guys aren't touching her. She'll flash-freeze them or just blow them away with lightning in milliseconds. Johnny's fire can rival the heat of a star or a nuke. And Iron Man repeatedly throws down with the big dogs. His armor is well above anything seen from a non-Nihilus class Force user.

Storms an Omega level mutant and Torch and Iron Man are some of the heaviest hitters of the Marvel heroes.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Paralyzing them will do nothing to stop them from blasting the shit out of them. All of these characters have fought telekinetic opponents well above Vader and co.

That sheer power is nothing compared to comic feats bro. Storm can block Cyclop's optic blasts, these guys aren't touching her. She'll flash-freeze them or just blow them away with lightning in milliseconds. Johnny's fire can rival the heat of a star or a nuke. And Iron Man repeatedly throws down with the big dogs. His armor is well above anything seen from a non-Nihilus class Force user.

Storms an Omega level mutant and Torch and Iron Man are some of the heaviest hitters of the Marvel heroes.

Well I haven't really read comics in recent years. But from the ones I used to read, Storm could certainly not do anything in a millisecond.

And I've not seen any of these guys resist Telekinesis. IM has probably tanked external TK attacks, but that doesn't stop him being force choked. (The force clearly doesn't need to penetrate barriers).

Johnny won't be going Supernova while getting force choked.

These guys may be heavy hitters but again they won't be doing squat if they're paralyzed and being Choked out. As for frying them, considering Sidious can Choke Dooku from another solar system, it's a pretty clear cut bet that Dooku or Mace can Choke these guys without being in their direct blast radius.

I agree with Power to an extent. Some of the comic book characters, while having great power output, might not have the means to defend themselves against certain attacks, or the speed/reactions to land their attack first, e.g. Cyclops.

But CB Magneto is definitely not one of them. Regarding the scans, I had a brief look in the respect thread and couldn't find anything but really, it's pretty common knowledge as well as common sense, given what Q was saying about him regularly going up against telekinetics.

Sidious mind rapes Thor, Hulk, Superman, etc...

I'm pretty sure all of them have feats of resisting strong telepathy.

Hulk seems to get mind raped every other comic.

They all stop at Rand

For the record Power, was reading Excalibur v3 #10, and Magneto's force field actually prevents someone from teleporting inside it. That sufficient evidence for you? I don't have the time to search for scans for it defending against internal TK specifically, this is something I only randomly stumbled onto, but it should at the very least establish that his force field operates not just as a simple barrier.

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Point proven?

I hate all those pictures.

Originally posted by Q99
Magneto *does* fight telekinesis with regularity. Magneto's not even high-end for some of the characters anyway...

I have him as a top 15 mutant, which is pretty damn impressive considering the top 10 is basically filled with universal/multiversal level reality warpers and psychics.