A TOP 5 -Vs- Thanos

Originally posted by carver9
That was against a calm Hulk and this happened in the same comic Thanos got arrows put through him. Where Thanos got one of his teeth punched out by Vision. If this is current Hulk who tends to be in a rage 90% of the time...TP isn't working.

I sure hope that you're correct because if you're wrong, there will be quite a few complications. So let's go with the scenario where you are wrong, and Thanos happens to grab hold of the Hulk. What happens when his original team has no idea that he is going to hit them with all of his might. Who do you think that he would knock out if they weren't expecting it? About half the team? If that happens it would be a two on two right? Strange with his questionable durability would be taken out by the effects of the Hulk hitting Thor, and then Blue Marvel goes out next. Who would be left on the field after this?

Originally posted by Stoic
I sure hope that you're correct because if you're wrong, there will be quite a few complications. So let's go with the scenario where you are wrong, and Thanos happens to grab hold of the Hulk. What happens when his original team has no idea that he is going to hit them with all of his might. Who do you think that he would knock out if they weren't expecting it? About half the team? If that happens it would be a two on two right? Strange with his questionable durability would be taken out by the effects of the Hulk hitting Thor, and then Blue Marvel goes out next. Who would be left on the field after this?

That isn't working though. TPing a calm Hulk is different than TPING an enrage/pissed Hulk. Then you have people on the team that can put TP defenses up for the team. Let's say if Thanos succeeds at TPing Hulk and someone like Strange breaks this TP assault before Hulk did too much damage to the team. What kind of Hulk would we have then once he realize Thanos used him against his team? Once he realize he was taken advantage of. Hulk is d*** near completely indestructible right now and he has already laughed off a punch from Thanos recently. I don't think Thanos would want to piss current Hulk off...at all, and messing with his mind would do just that.

Originally posted by carver9
I agree with this. Hope this is directed at H1 since he is the one using the black hole argument.

I'm in agreement. Honestly though, Thanos isn't just any opponent. He's the sort of character that warrants such action regardless of the probability. Whether it translates is certainly a different matter. I still see it as an ace up Surfer's sleeve however. Whether it's ever played or not is at the discretion of the writer. It's doubtful though. A forum fight- even more doubtful because a consensus won't ever be reached concerning the matter.

Originally posted by Orrsome28
I'm in agreement. Honestly though, Thanos isn't just any opponent. He's the sort of character that warrants such action regardless of the probability. Whether it translates is certainly a different matter. I still see it as an ace up Surfer's sleeve however. Whether it's ever played or not is at the discretion of the writer. It's doubtful though. A forum fight- even more doubtful because a consensus won't ever be reached concerning the matter.

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Where is this scan of Thanos fleeing?

And god knows why people say Surfer got a upgrade in Annihilation ! As it's been proven he never got more powerful

I just need to know why people are giving Thanos the win here? Because he has taken on the Maker, Odin, Tyrant. Great fts. Thor has taken on Destroyer armor Odin, Odin, Celestials, Galactus, Chaos King, Serpent...doesn't mean he is beating a team of this caliber. Thanos has good fts...amazing fts for someone of his power level but I have as of yet to see him defeat a team of Heralds by himself.

The reason a consensus will never be reached is because Surfer has existed as a character for several decadeS, but has only unleashed black hole energies against an opponent once in that time. Thus, it is simply not an in-character tactic for him by any stretch of the imagination.

We use averages here, not cherry-picked/one-time scenes.

Originally posted by Galan007
The reason a consensus will never be reached is because Surfer has existed as a character for several decadeS, but has only unleashed black hole energies against an opponent once in that time. Thus, it is simply not an in-character tactic for him by any stretch of the imagination.

We use averages here, not cherry-picked/one-time scenes.

Wouldn't Thanos mind attacking during mid battle fall in the same category?

Team again.

Originally posted by carver9
I never said that. Thanos has already defeated Surfer so why would anyone give Surfer the win against him. I just posted the ft because someone asked for it. This team still kills Thanos though.

Stop lying, nobody asked for it, ever.

Originally posted by carver9
Wouldn't Thanos mind attacking during mid battle fall in the same category?

Nah, because Thanos is a bastard who uses such a tactic during battle.

Surfer is a pacifist, who used it to create a monument to a fallen hero. In the isolation of space.

It's amazing how certain posters think stacking fodder means a win against certain characters and avoid proving what they repeat

Odin's BLOOOD Arghieee, Hulk smashurassin.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Stop lying, nobody asked for it, ever.

Nah, because Thanos is a bastard who uses such a tactic during battle.

Surfer is a pacifist, who used it to create a monument to a fallen hero. In the isolation of space.

He just fought the most powerful team of Avengers that has ever existed. Why didn't he use TP then since it is a tactic that he will use?

Originally posted by carver9
He just fought the most powerful team of Avengers that has ever existed. Why didn't he use TP then since it is a tactic that he will use?

Their most powerful member, the mighty Hulk, was already taken care of. Once the biggest threat, who scares Thanos, is out of the equation, why else would he need his TP?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Their most powerful member, the mighty Hulk, was already taken care of. Once the biggest threat, who scares Thanos, is out of the equation, why else would he need his TP?

Why not do the same against a more powerful team though? If this is a tactic for Thanos, why wouldn't he just add Hulk to his team...Especially with the team being far more powerful than the team he faced when controlling Hulk.

In the Infinity Watch book Drax was able to hold Thanos untill Gamora punched him in the face WWH imo could do that imo and then have the other beat him down, also Strange was able to bring some heros to pull Thanos and SS apart.

Originally posted by carver9
Why not do the same against a more powerful team though? If this is a tactic for Thanos, why wouldn't he just add Hulk to his team...Especially with the team being far more powerful than the team he faced when controlling Hulk.

It all boils down to the fact that we're grossly limited by the writers' often largely disparate interpretations rather than the characters themselves.

how close in power were the revengers to there actual selves?

Originally posted by golem370
In the Infinity Watch book Drax was able to hold Thanos untill Gamora punched him in the face WWH imo could do that imo and then have the other beat him down, also Strange was able to bring some heros to pull Thanos and SS apart.

Originally posted by bbrem123
how close in power were the revengers to there actual selves?

Didn't Surfer take out two of the most powerful Revengers?