Kit Fisto and Kyle Katarn vs Count Dooku

Started by Eminence4 pages

Not very familiar with the TOR crew, I'll take a look. Is there a respect thread or something?

Oh, and I guess Revan's up there.

He is not.

Originally posted by Eminence
Not very familiar with the TOR crew, I'll take a look. Is there a respect thread or something?

Oh, and I guess Revan's up there.

There is, mine! Forgive the amateurish construction. I'm not really a respect thread aficionado.

Short version:

Chucked a huge slab of metal a large distance casually.

Tanked an explosion that demolished a blast door to her face.

Defeated an ancient Sith Lord who was drawing power from hundreds of Jedi Masters at once, when she was weakened from using an extremely draining shielding technique multiple times and had to fight through his army first.

Defeated the First Son, a being powerful enough to mask hundreds of powerful Sith from detection by the Jedi.

And Marek, durrrr. Think adding Depa to the one of the Maybe tiers is fair, but those don't really matter anyway.

Thanks Neph.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
He is not.

This was in reference to Neph's lament on the Hero of Stupid Tie-In Avatar Game Not Confirmed in Any Other Canon source.

Originally posted by Nephthys
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Also the, urgh, Hero of Umbara. If hes canon at all. uhuh [/B]

Yessss. He's the Hero of Tython 2.0.
And he's canon, bitches.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's non-canon. A PT era Jedi who beat Dooku and Yoda, lolwut?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Yessss. He's the Hero of Tython 2.0.
And he's canon, bitches.

Prove that he is referenced canonically in any reference guide or other EU canon material.

He doesn't need to be...One canonical appearance is enough for a character to be deemed canon. 🙄

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
He doesn't need to be...One canonical appearance is enough for a character to be deemed canon. 🙄

No, not when the individual can defeat two of the most powerful Jedi of all time in a game that has events literally not referenced elsewhere. This isn't like KotOR or JA which are noted in guidebooks, encyclopedias, etc. This guy exists in a wish fulfilment tie in game and that's it. The unusual circumstances of his feats and canon isolation beg for more proof.

Seriously, this guy makes Anakin look like a pussy. He should be the guy touted as the Chosen One. Sidious should be seducing this clown.

I've never understood why some people think of Dooku as a top tier character. He's firmly established as not really being in the same league as the best guys in his era, his showings are utterly drawfed by a large number of people in the EU, and he never really had that aura that the great heroes/villains of the mythos possess, that feeling of being extraordinarily powerful/talented. I'd imagine there were hundreds of Force Users that were more powerful than Dooku since the Dawn of the Jedi, and he's certainly not close to the truly top tier guys, and that's excluding the God tier characters.

Dooku>Vitiate. 😉

Originally posted by Nephthys
Seriously, this guy makes Anakin look like a pussy. He should be the guy touted as the Chosen One. Sidious should be seducing this clown.
I played CWA 2010-2014 and it was super fun

Originally posted by Nephthys
Seriously, this guy makes Anakin look like a pussy. He should be the guy touted as the Chosen One. Sidious should be seducing this clown.

👆

Though frankly if he can already beat Yoda, he should be the one seducing Sidious!

So laaaaaame.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The Barsen'thor. She's his clear superior in power and overall fighting ability imo.

none of the opponents of the Barsen'thor are has fought impressive as the ones dooku has fought, Anakin, Obi-Wan, Ventress and Yoda to name a few. okay I'm with you on the Barsen'thor being a bit(maybe more) stronger than dooku in terms of the force, but dueling wise they don't even compare, Dooku is stated to be the ONLY one(besides Sidious) who can face Mace and Yoda on even ground, he's taken on three nightsisters at the same - while he was blinded/poisoned.

Oh man, he took on 3 whole Nightsisters while poisoned? Aw man, thats so cooooool.

But the Barsen'thor fought through a capital ship manned by a small army and defeated an ancient Sith lord drawing power from hundreds of Jedi Masters, while also greatly weakened. And after tanking an explosion that blew through a blast door. 😐

The First Son is also easily up there with frigging Anakin, Obi-Wan and Ventress lol. It is true that the Consular lacks dueling feats, but she is still an incredibly prodigy and Force Master. She doesn't need a lightsaber to defeat Dooku.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Oh man, he took on 3 whole Nightsisters while poisoned? Aw man, thats so cooooool.

But the Barsen'thor fought through a capital ship manned by a small army and defeated an ancient Sith lord drawing power from hundreds of Jedi Masters, while also greatly weakened. And after tanking an explosion that blew through a blast door. 😐

The First Son is also easily up there with frigging Anakin, Obi-Wan and Ventress lol. It is true that the Consular lacks dueling feats, but she is still an incredibly prodigy and Force Master. She doesn't need a lightsaber to defeat Dooku.

all kidding aside though, yes she is a formidable force user, but in terms of dueling(which is how a battle ALWAYS goes in the SW world) she/he/it/IDGAF loses to Dooku. but in a force fight the edge - along with the victory go to the Barsen'thor.

True. She has basically ****-all in terms of lightsaber feats. But she can block lightsabers with a Force Bubble. 😉