Originally posted by zopzop
Not counting the Invaders/Avengers showing, his little tussle with Hercules. He had Venom and crew helping him and he was still tooled.
Sentry wasn't even trying or wanting to fight. I know you realize the context, but you continue to grasp at straws. Your using every lowball feat in the book to save face in an argument you lost pages ago.
Originally posted by tkitna
Sentry wasn't even trying or wanting to fight. I know you realize the context, but you continue to grasp at straws. Your using every lowball feat in the book to save face in an argument you lost pages ago.
He looked good vs Thor but Thor was OBVIOUSLY written down. Other posters have already explained why and given examples.
Then the worm came along and that was the end of DSentry. DSentry was hyped to sh|t and went out with a whimper, not a bang.
You're ignoring the fact that the other DCharacters (Grim Reaper, Banshee, Daken) came on strong at first then were humiliated in their own way by the the heroes.
As of now, he's gone. Ended by some random space worm. Get over it and move on.
Surfer wins.
Originally posted by zopzop
He looked good vs Thor but Thor was OBVIOUSLY written down. Other posters have already explained why and given examples.
So Thor had to be OBVIOUSLY written down because you don't like the outcome? Gottcha. Thor wasn't written down. He got his ass kicked by a far more powerful character. Dsentry beat Thor in a way that the Surfer could never hope to beat him. That should make the answer to this thread simple, but yet you keep babbling about other things because you don't like it.
Dsentry wins every single time, all of the time.
Originally posted by zopzop
The knee to the crotch wasn't the worst part. Hercules was toying with him despite the fact that he had Venom all up in his grill.The Hellicarrier was a "strength feat" humiliation. Momentum or not, any CL100 worth a damn would have held it.
Do you really even have any idea what you're talking about or do you just enjoy spewing BS?
A fully loaded Helicarrier is +100,000 Tonnes... And it wasn't just about holding up the weight; it was not allowing it to collapse in on itself on the way down while killing the multiple thousands of people aboard it.
Originally posted by tkitna
Thor wasn't written down. He got his ass kicked by a far more powerful character. Dsentry beat Thor in a way that the Surfer could never hope to beat him.
Eh, I wouldn't write Thor off in a future rematch but the information we currently have points towards DSentry being the strongest character 👆
I also agree with Surfer never managing to deal with Thor so conclusively, the otherway around has happened though...
Originally posted by -Pr-
Sentry really doesn't have enough feats in this form for a vs match. If you guys want to include the previous Sentry's feats, that's fine, but the exaggeration and lowballing has to stop.
The god -Pr- has answered my prayers! But not in the fashion I was hoping... I was expecting him to say something along the lines of, "Deathtry stomps. Spite thread closed." 😕
Originally posted by Bentley
Eh, I wouldn't write Thor off in a future rematch but the information we currently have points towards DSentry being the strongest character 👆[b]
Of course not, but from what we have to go on, he beat Thor senseless not once, but twice. Thor was powerless against him both times.
[b]I also agree with Surfer never managing to deal with Thor so conclusively, the otherway around has happened though...
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Originally posted by -Pr-
Sentry really doesn't have enough feats in this form for a vs match. If you guys want to include the previous Sentry's feats, that's fine, but the exaggeration and lowballing has to stop.
In all due respect PR, why would a normal Sentry's feats be allowed when Dsentry is is an entirely different beast? Its true Dsentry doesn't have a lot of feats, but the couple he has shows him defeating Thor not once, but twice in the easiest of fashions. If it was only a one time deal, I could understand your point, but twice? I would think thats enough to form a pretty strong opinion of the character.
If you want to close this thread based on the fact that it seems like spite against the Surfer, I can understand that.
Originally posted by Epicurus
Aaron's feat has Thor going over a million times the speed of a light without any trouble whatsoever. Do you honestly think Remender had that high a number in his mind when he wrote the "many times the speed of light" bit in the narrative?
How could I have thought that high a number when you're just now specifying the rate of speed under Aaron? Shoulda said that a long time ago but I'm still wondering what you're talking about.
Is it this, where galaxies passed in a blur but he clearly needed a ship to accomplish the feat?
Or this, when Gor got knocked light years away and the Thors had to catch up?
The first scan isn't comparable to someone grabbing you and instantly jolting your body with tremendous force which would cause disorientation. In the second set of scans (even though Gor was knocked light years away), it wasn't indicated exactly how long it took for them to catch up from the first scan to the next but we know it wasn't at the "galaxies pass in a blur" rate that the ship produced because they were then flying under their own power.
Or is it still another instance I'm missing here?
Too much A>B>C logic in this thread. This type of logic doesn't hold up in actual comics and especially when characters have vastly different and versatile power sets.
The argument is essentially Sentry beat up Thor, therefore he'll beat up Surfer.
I've already shown how dumb this logic is using REAL feats/fights. Surfer has beaten or stalemated individuals who have owned Thor e.g., Durok, Hulk, Millenneus, etc. Hence why abc logic doesn't work.
Pr is right when he says Death Sentry has too few feats to judge. His only feat is defeating Thor which wasn't even a stomp, people are just exaggerating. I wouldn't be surprised if Thor ends up beating Death Sentry in the future.
IIRC Taurus from Zodiac knocked Thor out with one punch (more impressive than Sentry's supposed two shot), but later on Thor got his revenge.
Originally posted by One-Punch
Too much A>B>C logic in this thread. This type of logic doesn't hold up in actual comics and especially when characters have vastly different and versatile power sets.The argument is essentially Sentry beat up Thor, therefore he'll beat up Surfer.
I've already shown how dumb this logic is using REAL feats/fights. Surfer has beaten or stalemated individuals who have owned Thor e.g., Durok, Hulk, Millenneus, etc. Hence why abc logic doesn't work.
Pr is right when he says Death Sentry has too few feats to judge. His only feat is defeating Thor which wasn't even a stomp, people are just exaggerating. I wouldn't be surprised if Thor ends up beating Death Sentry in the future.
IIRC Taurus from Zodiac knocked Thor out with one punch (more impressive than Sentry's supposed two shot), but later on Thor got his revenge.
Ofcoarse abc logic is a bad way to go about judging fights. I am the biggest believer of that principle. Different fighting styles clash, and the chemistry between one fighter differentiates from another. So if a beats b and b beats c then that doesn't mean that a guaranteed beats c. I know this...... However in this case abc logic can indeed be applied, and I never say that. Thor is one of the most powerful beings in Marvel, and a staple high herald who pretty much never gets stomped by anyone in his class and is a great combatant. All of a sudden he gets spite stomped twice and smiled at while he is easily being defeated? I think its safe to apply abc logic here. No where in history has surfer ever come close to outclassing thor in a bout nor will it ever happen. By Remender having deathry decimate thor as he did he wanted to establish that this version of Sentry is in a class of his own. Deathry is not going to defeat one of Marvels most powerful heralds with ease, then lose to another individual in the same weight class. You might as well go the route of another individual on these forums and say Surfer beats Thanos in that case. Surfer can't win them all so get him off of your high horse. Again I don't adhere to abc logic, but it definitely applies here.
Originally posted by tkitna
In all due respect PR, why would a normal Sentry's feats be allowed when Dsentry is is an entirely different beast? Its true Dsentry doesn't have a lot of feats, but the couple he has shows him defeating Thor not once, but twice in the easiest of fashions. If it was only a one time deal, I could understand your point, but twice? I would think thats enough to form a pretty strong opinion of the character.If you want to close this thread based on the fact that it seems like spite against the Surfer, I can understand that.
Two fights isn't enough, tbh. Sure, he beat Thor, but Surfer is a different animal, so until we see more of this Sentry, I don't see much point in keeping the thread open.
I'll give it a few minutes so people can post their final opinions.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Two fights isn't enough, tbh. Sure, he beat Thor, but Surfer is a different animal, so until we see more of this Sentry, I don't see much point in keeping the thread open.I'll give it a few minutes so people can post their final opinions.
-Pr- QUICK! Close it now so I can have the final word. 😱
Originally posted by One-Punch
His only feat is defeating Thor which wasn't even a stomp, people are just exaggerating..
Wasn't a stomp? What constitutes as a stomp in your world. He 2 shotted him after taking a hammer to the back of the head. Before that he toyed with him while trying to explain stuff (in his own twisted words).
Yes, it was a stomp. One of which the Surfer has never been shown to be able to duplicate.
