DE Sidious v. Vitiate and Darth Nox

Show me the quote saying Vitiate prepared his telepathy.

Theres no indication of that happening.

Just not nearly to full strength.

And Vitiate improved a lot after that fight, since he spends 300 years draining Revan and he is constantly increasing in power normally anyway.

He's recovering his strength.

I didn't say he could, I said that he could give a good fight to someone who can.

DERP. We're talking about the TOR Strike Team, not Revan and friends. erm

However, Vitiate was given ample time to prepare. Hell, they even had to battle Scourge literally RIGHT in front of the Emperor. He would be getting ready during that entire battle, unless he was stupid.

No, you can use it to argue Revan using it against someone who outmatches him in lightsabers, to prevent them from overwhelming him in that regard.

The Emperor annihilates them in less than 5 seconds

edit: Since I honestly did every accolade and feat for Revan, I plan on becoming a Hero of Tython fanboy. I'm not like you people who can stick to numerous characters, I need a specific character, or in this case two now if I do decide to the Tython, to dedicate my life to. Any objections?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Drew said he couldn't use TP without prep, so he must have had to. 👆

So its just another baseless assumption on your part then. Nice.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Then that is embarrassing as hell for Vitiate.
However, Luke in FOTJ did state it was extremely powerful in the Dark Side from the time of TOR.

I'll take that over you gits using it to toss out more feats.

I thought he said that about the Dark Temple.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
There is no proof for that.

I've already proven it. 🙄

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I never said he didn't, but his fight against Revan is his best battle showings.

Strike Team ownage >>>

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Perhaps because he depleted all that remained from collapsing the temple?
I'm not saying the TK feat isn't good, because it is very impressive, just he wasn't like totally destroyed when he did it. His spirit was still active, and could even speak.

And all that remained was barely anything, since he was exhausted from the fight and weakened before it even began. As I pointed out, Vitiate could barely even stand and after the HoT near-bisected him he actually couldn't stand. The fact that despite this he still had enough power to collapse the temple is a tremendous showing. Sidious is not going to shrug off a full powered Vitiate's TK.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Ehhh, define "good fight"

About as good as someone with 80% of the power of his opponent can give. Vader will be losing, but he won't be overwhelmed. Like Dooku vs Yoda or Bane vs Zannah, except with TK instead of lightsabers.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
However, Vitiate was given ample time to prepare. Hell, they even had to battle Scourge literally RIGHT in front of the Emperor. He would be getting ready during that entire battle, unless he was stupid.

And Sidious was given ample time to prepare against the B team. He knew they were coming and had time to prep while they approached him. But he didn't need to prepare, just like Vitiate didn't need to either, since he was capable of wiping them out "easily."

So its just another baseless assumption on your part then. Nice.

I thought he said that about the Dark Temple.

I've already proven it. roll eyes (sarcastic)

Strike Team ownage >>>

And all that remained was barely anything, since he was exhausted from the fight and weakened before it even began. As I pointed out, Vitiate could barely even stand and after the HoT near-bisected him he actually couldn't stand. The fact that despite this he still had enough power to collapse the temple is a tremendous showing. Sidious is not going to shrug off a full powered Vitiate's TK.

And Sidious was given ample time to prepare against the B team. He knew they were coming and had time to prep while they approached him. But he didn't need to prepare, just like Vitiate didn't need to either, since he was capable of wiping them out "easily."

I'd like to point out that whether or not Luke said the planet or the temple was a nexus is irrelevant, as Vitiate's feats take place in the temple, which is on the planet.

So you are implying:
Temple Nexus amp + Planet amp?
I like it. 👆

I'd like to point out that Luke said that over 3000 years after TOR took place.

And no one lived there since Vitiate besides a couple Rule of Two Sith.
Really shows how immense the nexus must have been if it carried through 1000s of years. However Revan also said it was a nexus in the book, when Scourge asked if Revan can predict what will happen next.

You can't possibly prove that.

Revan doesn't say that. If you're talking about 'we are walking into a time and a place of shadows' that is pretty obviously metaphorical.

The line before actually. "The Dark Side obscures my sight."

I guess Mace and Yoda were on a darkside nexus too when they said the same thing in the movies. 🙄

I don't really like the nexus argument unless they were actively drawing from it.

I'm personally not going to use it from now on, unless they are actively tapping into it.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I guess Mace and Yoda were on a darkside nexus too when they said the same thing in the movies. 🙄

That's because Sidious and Plagueis forcibly shifted the Force into darkness. All of the Jedi were losing their powers. Don't act like it's the same thing.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
I don't really like the nexus argument unless they were actively drawing from it.

I'm personally not going to use it from now on, unless they are actively tapping into it.

The part where one denies canonical evidence to protect their favoritism is where I get irked. It was already silly when you denied the importance of a Nexus's amplification, and now you are denying that it exists to protect your fangirlish love of Bane. This actually really annoys me, Emperor, you've fallen so far.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
That's because Sidious and Plagueis forcibly shifted the Force into darkness. All of the Jedi were losing their powers. Don't act like it's the same thing.

I was being sarcastic. My point stands, that's not proof that the world was a nexus.

What, you mean Dromund Kaas!? Didn't Kyle Katarn almost lose his mind from just stepping on the damn planet? XD

Over 3000 years later......

As of TOR an entire imperial civilization lived on it and suffered no ill effects.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
The part where one denies canonical evidence to protect their favoritism is where I get irked. It was already silly when you denied the importance of a Nexus's amplification, and now you are denying that it exists to protect your fangirlish love of Bane. This actually really annoys me, Emperor, you've fallen so far.

Bane also achieves the exact speed feat on Lehon and Korriban, despite how much stronger in the dark side Lehon is. And despite Drew's proclivity for stating power increases/decreases, he never says shit about nexus's passively altering one's power.

I really just don't see that much proof for nexus's passively increasing one's power by very much.

I'm curious about your hostility. Are you insulting me because you disagree with my views, or are you pissed because I left your forum after the other admins mocked me, trolled me, banned me, and continued to spam me with porn after I left? Because neither illicit such insulting.

This thread makes me smile.