Originally posted by Nephthys
Maul and Kenobi? Lolwut? haermm
Uh, yeah. Maul has brought down entire baracks with Force Screams, collapsed caves with a gesture, ripped down shuttles, sent dozens of soldiers flying, and crushed hearts with TK by looking. He's moved so fast security cameras couldn't pick him up, he's created webbing tapestries behind his blade, he's appeared to be in multiple places at once, and made time seem to slow. He's a high master of multiple forms, confirmed as one of the most deadly Sith swordsmasters in the Order's history, and has defeated highly hyped Jedi such as Qui-Gon Jinn and Anoon Bondara, and later on even Obi-Wan Kenobi himself. He has probed the minds of telepaths, destroying their minds, he has manipulated gravity, survived 40 meter falls without injury, and can resist the effects of Force Lightning. He even held his ground against Darth Sidious. I'm sorry, but he's really not lacking at all.
As for Kenobi, just look here:
http://www.comicvine.com/profile/shootingnova/blog/obi-wan-kenobi-respect-thread/96476/
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Uh, yeah. Maul has brought down entire baracks with Force Screams,
No, he didn't.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
collapsed caves with a gesture,
Nope.
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ripped down shuttles,
Not really seeing how that puts him on the same tier as Bane and Malgus, lol.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
sent dozens of soldiers flying,
Wrong.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
and crushed hearts with TK by looking.
And Zannah disintegrated an arm without any training at all.
Hell, untrained Bane crushed his fathers heart without looking.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
He's moved so fast security cameras couldn't pick him up,
At night, with no moon, while wearing black and with red and black skin. He could have walked and not been picked up.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
he's created webbing tapestries behind his blade,
Generic.
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he's appeared to be in multiple places at once,
Admittedly good, but not on Banes level.
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and made time seem to slow.
Any superspeed does that. Its called time dilation.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
He's a high master of multiple forms, confirmed as one of the most deadly Sith swordsmasters in the Order's history, and has defeated highly hyped Jedi such as Qui-Gon Jinn and Anoon Bondara, and later on even Obi-Wan Kenobi himself. He has probed the minds of telepaths, destroying their minds, he has manipulated gravity, survived 40 meter falls without injury, and can resist the effects of Force Lightning.
meeeeeeeeeeeh
Originally posted by NewGuy01
He even held his ground against Darth Sidious. I'm sorry, but he's really not lacking at all.
Sidious casually pwned him and his brother at the start of the fight. The only reason he stood his ground was because Sidious chose to drop him to it. 😉
No, he didn't.
Technically, you're right. Restraint states that if Maul had released the scream that he had held in, the barracks would have collapsed around him.
Nope.
Not really seeing how that puts him on the same tier as Bane and Malgus, lol.
And yet it's very impressive when Malgus moves his shuttle with a Force Wave.
Wrong.
At night, with no moon, while wearing black and with red and black skin. He could have walked and not been picked up.
Nice excuses you're making there.
Generic.
It's still better than any speed feat Malgus or Exar has.
Admittedly good, but not on Banes level.
Even Orbalisk Bane was hard pressed able to keep up with Raskta Lsu when she was moving that fast. I don't see how that's not on his level.
meeeeeeeeeeeh
Being called a high level master of multiple forms and one of the best Sith swordsmasters in Sith history is literally all that Kas'im has, and you hold him in extremely high esteem.
Qui-Gon Jinn's feats are no lesser than Ven Zallow's, who pressed Malgus a lot more than Jinn did Maul, to boot. Not to even mention Obi-Wan lol.
And gravity manipulation is boss.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Technically, you're right. Restraint states that if Maul had released the scream that he had held in, the barracks would have collapsed around him.
I know, I read the quote in the Maul vs Leneer thread. He didn't actually do it, thus it is not a feat. It could easily just have been an exaggeration, and I think it was. As I recall, the quote is written from Mauls own perspective. Its no more accurate than Maul thinking that he could solo the Jedi Temple and Council.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
That is neither a cave nor is that a gesture. Orgus Din did better in a real cave.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
And yet it's very impressive when Malgus moves his shuttle with a Force Wave.
Its not particularly notable, no. Although you forgot to mention that Malgus also sent a crowd flying with that Wave too.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
You should have written "Maul and his brother sent dozens of soldiers flying."
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Nice excuses you're making there.
I know, I'm making them.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
It's still better than any speed feat Malgus or Exar has.
About on par, most likely.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Even Orbalisk Bane was hard pressed able to keep up with Raskta Lsu when she was moving that fast. I don't see how that's not on his level.
Lsu was doing so from the perspective of a Jedi Master. Just because the feat was similar doesn't mean that it was the same. Lsu was moving faster than Maul was.
Speaking of, I don't recall anyone actually posting the quote where Maul does this. Could you provide it for me?
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Being called a high level master of multiple forms and one of the best Sith swordsmasters in Sith history is literally all that Kas'im has, and you hold him in extremely high esteem.Qui-Gon Jinn's feats are no lesser than Ven Zallow's, who pressed Malgus a lot more than Jinn did Maul, to boot. Not to even mention Obi-Wan lol.
And gravity manipulation is boss.
Its more than that. Kas'im mastered all lightsaber forms and varients and then spent decades perfecting and refining each one. His technical mastery is simply on another level.
Malgus improved significantly after his fight with Zallow. Plus I'd put Zallow above Qui-Gon. Zallow was the greatest Jedi in the temple by far, which puts him above even juggernauts like Kellian Jarro, who soloed a hundred veteran Mando's in the battle.
IIRC wasn't it just a really stupidly phrased sentence that made it seem like he was manipulating gravity?