Nomi Sunrider Respect Thread

Started by Selenial54 pages
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Elaborate.

I shouldn't have to.

Wall of Light applications as a Padawan, Incredible endurance feats on the most powerful dark side nexus to ever exist, killed an academy of 198 (IIRC) Sith assassins. Single handedly destroyed Nihilus' army. Better tactician than Revan thanks to her battle meditation, was given more of the fleet than him and Malak put together. One of the few people Revan feared during his ascension to the Sith.

Invaded the minds of people trained to resist them.

Force Enlightenment anyone?

Survived on Natheema for weeks, despite what Garbage comes from LeGenDs mouth, she was there longer than everyone else combined.

Eh, I CBA to go on.

Originally posted by Selenial
No Surik = Reason why this forum isn't remotely respected by the TOR forums.

It's idiocracy, and mediocracy at its finest.

I'm flattered that my personal opinion means so much to you guys. It's makes me feel really special.

Surik isn't on the list because of Drew Karyshan. Take it up with him, not us.

Originally posted by Selenial
Also, where the hell is Traya? You know, the roflStomp sion like he's nothing, 7 sith one shotting BAMF Sith Lord?

I dunno, maybe at 22 or something. It was supposed to only be up to 20 but then I remembered a few people.

@Selenial
There's errors in this. Hold on. ^

Neph, that's a pathetic excuse.

By your logic, Vitiate gets off the List too, because he lost to HOT due to being weakened.

Yep, folks, if you're going to act like being weakened doesn't matter, and somehow makes previous feats irrelevant, then Vitiate can go **** himself!

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
That doesn't stop Nihilus from being more powerful. He has the best TK feat in the mythos with comparable feats to the best. That is what makes him powerful. His ability to control said power is irrelevant to a thread designed to show who has the most power.

Which is why I put him at number 1. 😬

"Darth Traya and the Jedi Exile once felt a ripple through the force, calling them to a mysterious planet. There they encountered three beings who represented different aspects of the force. This family attempted to kill Traya and the Exile, for they threatened to destroy the force. The Exile hurled the Son and Daughter back meanwhile Traya drained the Father to his knees, and the duo subdued these beings for three days. Then they both ran back to their ship, and escaped the planet forever. After defeating these all powerful beings with their supreme powers, Traya and the Exile found themselves drawn to Malastare, where they encountered two Zillo beasts attempting to destroy society on Malastare. They each seized one with the force and throttled it to death."-KOTOR Campaign Guide Collector's Edition

Anyone else feel this Nihilus quote is being taken too seriously?

Seeing as the Ships were all pieces of ships held together by a particle field and his will, I doubt he lifted every ship at once.

Besides, he's on a Nexus, and Yodas done comparable feats.
He's good, but I wouldn't call it the best TK feat in the mythos...

Originally posted by Selenial
Neph, that's a pathetic excuse.

By your logic, Vitiate gets off the List too, because he lost to HOT due to being weakened.

Yep, folks, if you're going to act like being weakened doesn't matter, and somehow makes previous feats irrelevant, then Vitiate can go **** himself!

I'm sorry. I'm trash.

I don't think its possible to prove she was weakened though. So my placement makes sense from that consideration.

Believe me, I understand your frustration. I greatly admired your reason for championing Traya and Meetra and agree that Star Wars is horribly misogynistic. But you know, I just can't ignore how she was portrayed as being sooooo far below Revan and Nyriss. And logically TOR Scourge would eclipse her too.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm sorry. I'm trash.

I don't think its possible to prove she was weakened though. So my placement makes sense from that consideration.

Believe me, I understand your frustration. I greatly admired your reason for championing Traya and Meetra and agree that Star Wars is horribly misogynistic. But you know, I just can't ignore how she was portrayed as being sooooo far below Revan and Nyriss. And logically TOR Scourge would eclipse her too.

Plenty of Evidence.

Natheema, And the fact Kaas hypes the others.

Hell, I'll email Drew and ask if he thinks it's fair to say she was weakened.

Originally posted by Selenial
Anyone else feel this Nihilus quote is being taken too seriously?

Seeing as the Ships were all pieces of ships held together by a particle field and his will, I doubt he lifted every ship at once.

Besides, he's on a Nexus, and Yodas done comparable feats.
He's good, but I wouldn't call it the best TK feat in the mythos...


It doesn't matter if Malachor V is a nexus, it's also a gravity well. Lifting anything out of their, let alone a fleet of ships, even individually, is above what anyone else has ever down with TK.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
And? Control =/= power.

That doesn't stop Nihilus from being more powerful. He has the best TK feat in the mythos with comparable feats to the best. That is what makes him powerful. His ability to control said power is irrelevant to a thread designed to show who has the most power.

Im not saying he isn't no.1 but Im just saying that with enough power base, knowledge of the dark side and mastery of the force I think Nihilus' drain can be resisted. I personally believe that Sidious and Vitiate are the only 2 that can defend against it. Its a personal opinion. It isn't just about being powerful enough though. Luke for example, is more powerful than Vitiate or Sidious but I think he would have a harder time dealing with his drain.

Also Nihilus' power varies a lot. I guess anyone to face him without knowing about his power right after he consumed Katarr is screwed. I however, think that if both Vitiate and Nihilus knew about each other and each other's capabilities(without prep), Vitiate could possibly find a way to defend himself against the drain while overwhelming him with mandrape and FLS.

Originally posted by Selenial
Plenty of Evidence.

Natheema, And the fact Kaas hypes the others.

Hell, I'll email Drew and ask if he thinks it's fair to say she was weakened.

I don't buy into the Nathema theory. And Kaas is nothing she hasn't taken before.

I'd be very happy if he said she was but I doubt it.

"Meetra Surik did what no other being could ever hope to achieve. She survived on Nathema for weeks, something that would've killed everyone else in a few hours. But through her immense power and purity of will she survived. Though she made it off of the planet alive against all odds, it still reduced Meetra's strength to a shadow of the magnificent power she once wielded, and she was never truly able to regain her strength before her demise at the hands of Lord Scourge. If she had access to her full power, she could've defeated Emperor Vitiate all on her own."-SWTOR Encyclopedia Exclusive Version

Originally posted by Sinious
Im not saying he isn't no.1 but Im just saying that with enough power base, knowledge of the dark side and mastery of the force I think Nihilus' drain can be resisted. I personally believe that Sidious and Vitiate are the only 2 that can defend against it. Its a personal opinion though. It isn't just about being powerful enough though. Luke for example, is more powerful than Vitiate or Sidious but I think he would have a harder time dealing with his drain.

Irrelevant to the point of showing that Nihilus's drain is among the best in TOR Era. And in a list about being the most powerful, it is about being more powerful.

Also Nihilus' power varies a lot. I guess anyone to face him without knowing about his power right after he consumed Katarr is screwed. I however, think that if both Vitiate and Nihilus knew about each other and each other's capabilities(without prep), Vitiate could possibly find a way to defend himself against the drain while overwhelming him with mandrape and FLS.

I'm not sure where you're getting his power varies a lot from. Nihilus seen in KotOR II is weakened, then he weakens himself further by draining the Exile. He still dominates most of this 3 v 1 duel. As for mineraping Nihilus, I doubt that's possible considering that Nihilus acts on instinct.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
"Meetra Surik did what no other being could ever hope to achieve. She survived on Nathema for weeks, something that would've killed everyone else in a few hours. But through her immense power and purity of will she survived. Though she made it off of the planet alive against all odds, it still reduced Meetra's strength to a shadow of the magnificent power she once wielded, and she was never truly able to regain her strength before her demise at the hands of Lord Scourge. If she had access to her full power, she could've defeated Emperor Vitiate all on her own."-SWTOR Encyclopedia Exclusive Version

😄

Originally posted by Emperordmb
"Meetra Surik did what no other being could ever hope to achieve. She survived on Nathema for weeks, something that would've killed everyone else in a few hours. But through her immense power and purity of will she survived. Though she made it off of the planet alive against all odds, it still reduced Meetra's strength to a shadow of the magnificent power she once wielded, and she was never truly able to regain her strength before her demise at the hands of Lord Scourge. If she had access to her full power, she could've defeated Emperor Vitiate all on her own."-SWTOR Encyclopedia Exclusive Version

fake and gay 😄

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
It doesn't matter if Malachor V is a nexus, it's also a gravity well. Lifting anything out of their, let alone a fleet of ships, even individually, is above what anyone else has ever down with TK.

No it's not, it fluctuates, which means it could be very horrific or normal-light for its size.

Originally posted by Sinious
real and awesome

One of the loading screens in Kotor 2 confirms that Nihilus pulled his fleet from the "mass shadows" of Malachor, as I recall.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ

You just said the opposite of gay, is Awesome....

That's impressive.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I don't buy into the Nathema theory. And Kaas is nothing she hasn't taken before.

I'd be very happy if he said she was but I doubt it.

We'll find out in 2 weeks :/