Darth Sidious vs Shaw

Started by DrDeadpool6 pages
Originally posted by Lestov16
Wind is physical. We may not see it, but the atoms are there of course. The force is not consisted of the same particles as the wind. Matter of fact, it isn't composed of any composite particles at all. The way the force is described can only be taken to mean some kind of Higgs-like quantum field.

Still they are the same force but the source is different the wind one was an example that one of my professors used to say at my first year of university (in holiday physics) before i get into details i want to list all the possible forces then you choose one of them for this force since i haven't seen the star wars.

First force and the most famous is Newtonian force ( F=ma ) which comes from a solid or liquid object and SOMETIMES from gases and is the base force (that's why their nature is same) , the reason i said wind like my professor is that sometimes for gases we can use Newtonian force and sometimes we can't , we poor students had a great issue for solving problems with these kind of force 😄 since atoms in gases have a very complicated way of moving ! anyway i don't think its any of those so we get to other forces :

Electrical force : F=Kq1q2/d^2

Electromagnetic : F=qvbsin(x) Do you think its this ?

Weak force and strong force which are VERY complicated but still its the same force (if you want i can explain more) as those above but with a VERY VERY different source if you think its one of these forces so you must describe the force in star wars for me because these two can be very powerful ( one of them is the reason for nuclear explosions) theoretically its almost impossible to control these forces completely but we are still able to manipulate them but anyway which one of above those do you think it is ? 😛

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Sidious has no mind powers like Xavier. 😆
We were discussing whether or not Shaw was frozen by Xavier, remember?

Originally posted by The Spleen
We were discussing whether or not Shaw was frozen by Xavier, remember?

No you where saying the force was a force but not physical. When in fact its a invisible physical/kinetic force.

Lying again as usual.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
No you where saying the force was a force but not physical. When in fact its a invisible physical/kinetic force.

Lying again as usual.

The force can be used to project telekenisis yes. But the force doesn't = telekenisis. The force can be used to project lightning from the finger tips but the force doesn't = lightning. See where this is going?

You cant pin down what kind of force the force is, because it can be projected as nearly any kind of force

Originally posted by WildBantha88
The force can be used to project telekenisis yes. But the force doesn't = telekenisis. The force can be used to project lightning from the finger tips but the force doesn't = lightning. See where this is going?

You cant pin down what kind of force the force is, because it can be projected as nearly any kind of force

As I explained upper , which nobody will read it since its long and full of mambo jamboes 😄 if you tell me a little more about the force I might be able to help , tell me about it's affects 🙂

Originally posted by DrDeadpool
As I explained upper , which nobody will read it since its long and full of mambo jamboes 😄 if you tell me a little more about the force I might be able to help , tell me about it's affects 🙂
do you want the force as explained in the EU? The living force and the cosmic force and all that jazz?

Originally posted by WildBantha88
do you want the force as explained in the EU? The living force and the cosmic force and all that jazz?

If its the same force which will result in TK , Yes please 😛

The Living Force is composed of all living things. It is the energy that bines all living things. A force wielder can feel its energy tingling around them. When things die the energy is lost. This is where most force powers are derived from. Telekinesis, Telepathy, Force lightning ect.

The Cosmic Force is made up of stars and Galaxies. It is the rippling surface of space and time. Through the Cosmic Force ,force wielders can see through time. It is also how force wielders transcend death. "Becoming one with the force" is becoming a part of the Cosmic Force. Like Obi-Wans and yodas ghosts were a part of the Cosmic Force.

Funny, I didnt think of the force choking. OK, supporting Sidious to win here. Even IF Shaw gets the Magneto helmet, Sidious TKs it off him and then chokes him out. Shaw NEEDS to be charged to explode anything, if Sidious doesnt charge him up, Shaw is virtually useless on offense.

Originally posted by DTM
Funny, I didnt think of the force choking. OK, supporting Sidious to win here. Even IF Shaw gets the Magneto helmet, Sidious TKs it off him and then chokes him out. Shaw NEEDS to be charged to explode anything, if Sidious doesnt charge him up, Shaw is virtually useless on offense.
Exactly. What I have been saying all along, sans TKing off the helmet. Nice touch there.

Thanks man, though now that I think about it, the helmet wouldnt prevent force choking anyway, as its a TK physical attack, not a TP mental one.

Originally posted by WildBantha88
The Living Force is composed of all living things. It is the energy that bines all living things. A force wielder can feel its energy tingling around them. When things die the energy is lost. This is where most force powers are derived from. Telekinesis, Telepathy, Force lightning ect.

The Cosmic Force is made up of stars and Galaxies. It is the rippling surface of space and time. Through the Cosmic Force ,force wielders can see through time. It is also how force wielders transcend death. "Becoming one with the force" is becoming a part of the Cosmic Force. Like Obi-Wans and yodas ghosts were a part of the Cosmic Force.

That reminds me more of strings 😄 anyway if that's the case sidious wins.

Originally posted by The Spleen
Exactly. What I have been saying all along, sans TKing off the helmet. Nice touch there.

Since when did anyone in Star Wars TK off anyones helmet? 😂

How does him losing the helmet help Sidious win?

Originally posted by DrDeadpool
Still they are the same force but the source is different the wind one was an example that one of my professors used to say at my first year of university (in holiday physics) before i get into details i want to list all the possible forces then you choose one of them for this force since i haven't seen the star wars.

First force and the most famous is Newtonian force ( F=ma ) which comes from a solid or liquid object and SOMETIMES from gases and is the base force (that's why their nature is same) , the reason i said wind like my professor is that sometimes for gases we can use Newtonian force and sometimes we can't , we poor students had a great issue for solving problems with these kind of force 😄 since atoms in gases have a very complicated way of moving ! anyway i don't think its any of those so we get to other forces :

Electrical force : F=Kq1q2/d^2

Electromagnetic : F=qvbsin(x) Do you think its this ?

Weak force and strong force which are VERY complicated but still its the same force (if you want i can explain more) as those above but with a VERY VERY different source if you think its one of these forces so you must describe the force in star wars for me because these two can be very powerful ( one of them is the reason for nuclear explosions) theoretically its almost impossible to control these forces completely but we are still able to manipulate them but anyway which one of above those do you think it is ? 😛

Pretty sure the Force of Star Wars is not any of the 4 fundamental forces of our universe. None of the 4 interactions allows people to see into the future as far as I know. If it is so, my decision not to call Miss Cleo was a misguided one.

Originally posted by DrDeadpool
That reminds me more of strings 😄 anyway if that's the case sidious wins.

what do you mean by strings?

String Theory I guess?

Any way even if it isn't an energy, it will still be exerting a force on Shaw

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Since when did anyone in Star Wars TK off anyones helmet? 😂

How does him losing the helmet help Sidious win?

Ahahahaha, so I guess since we never saw a Jedi TK a can of soup they can't then?

Originally posted by The Spleen
Ahahahaha, so I guess since we never saw a Jedi TK a can of soup they can't then?

How would taking his helmet help? Sidious has nothing that can attack his mind. Taking his helmet off would do nothing to him.

How many times did Jedi "force Tk" heads off droids, or pull helmets off clone troopers?

Literally it makes no difference as his helmet in this fight makes no difference.

Lets take the helmet away. Boom, nothing changed.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
How would taking his helmet help? Sidious has nothing that can attack his mind. Taking his helmet off would do nothing to him.

How many times did Jedi "force Tk" heads off droids, or pull helmets off clone troopers?

Literally it makes no difference as his helmet in this fight makes no difference.

Lets take the helmet away. Boom, nothing changed.

Force choke, dude. Shaw has to breathe.

I swear, you're such a simpleton sometimes.

Originally posted by The Spleen
Force choke, dude. Shaw has to breathe.

I swear, you're such a simpleton sometimes.

Sorry, he can absorb it.

I swear you worship demon and practice moving paper clips at home.