Loki vs Superman

Originally posted by Surtur
First off, no, don't pull this bullshit. You have no room calling anyone son here. Only little boys pull that.

It is astounding you come spouting shit about regular showings in a thread people are trying to say Loki has legit super speed in.

It is also astounding you talk about CBR, when your rules here seem more or less copied and pasted right from there.

Couldn't care less about the Loki point I'm bothered about yours as you've done this ignorant stance in other thread.

Lol the rules ain't the same it's simply to understand

Originally posted by Insane Titan
ha ha me been a bully you've talked down to everyone since your first post.

Nope, I replied saying characters would use their speed. I only "talked down" once the non-sense logic was brought in. There was no reason for me to talk down in the beginning, because I assumed common sense was being applied to characters with super speed.

Couldn't care less about the Loki point I'm bothered about yours as you've done this ignorant stance in other thread.

Do you know what words mean? I'm not ignoring anything. Kinda the opposite, I'm not ignoring powers.

Lol the rules ain't the same it's simply to understand

Dude, most of the rules seem like they were copy and pasted from CBR. OR that CBR copied and pasted the rules from here. I don't know which came first, please..the only big difference is a woeful misunderstanding about the differences between PIS and CIS.

Originally posted by Surtur
Okay bro, the real beauty of this forum is people acting like elitist pricks? That is what you find beautiful?

Originally posted by Insane Titan
yup sure does.

Lol at Abhi defending his sock account

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's mostly Titan and Bran, the rest of the guys are pretty cool.
See? Titan randomly insults everybody. Its like he can't sleep if he doesn't insults someone on internet.

Yes, I'm starting to understand now. I guess the real change here is knowing who to actually take seriously.

Fine.

Have you got examples, Surtur, of Superman using his speed in fightsfrom the get go?

EEspecially with new villains he has not encountered before? Shouldbe simple and we can put this debate to rest.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Fine.

Have you got examples, Surtur, of Superman using his speed in fightsfrom the get go?

EEspecially with new villains he has not encountered before? Shouldbe simple and we can put this debate to rest.

How can we put the debate to rest when you already use faulty logic? Superman doesn't blitz due to PIS. Nu hasn't been around that long, so you won't find many examples of the specific thing you are looking for. The point is he has shown super speed and has no reason not to use it. This, "we need a scan of every specific thing he can possibly do in a fight" is weird. Post crisis Supes sure as hell was known to use it, but this isn't post crisis Supes.

Though then using your logic, I have to ask: Nu Superman, is he strong enough to throw a car into space? Keep in mind there are no scans of this. Not one, so I guess that means he can't? See, because if you think he can, it means you'd have to be using other feats to extrapolate what he can do, but that is apparently a no no.

Though, if you merely want to sit there and say "Loki wins because his opponent just doesn't use his powers to their fullest" well..meh, I'm fine with that, though it doesn't really tell us much about how powerful Loki is overall. I see no point in debating when a character is only going to half use their powers. Who wants to see Loki fight a Superman who is half assing it, would you?

Still don't see, even if Supes does use his super speed, how he's going to tell the real Loki from the illusion. Or how he's going to be attacking Loki while Loki sends monsters to attack innocents. Loki is thousands of years old, the God of Mischief, while Supes is still vulnerable to magic - in fact, Thor would probably do much better against Loki than Supes would. At least he knows what to expect. Nothing about Supes' character indicates that he would charge in with fists swinging - that's totally against his M.O. Loki, on the other hand, has loads of experience dealing with strong boyscouts flying around really fast.

Originally posted by Surtur
How can we put the debate to rest when you already use faulty logic? Superman doesn't blitz due to PIS. Nu hasn't been around that long, so you won't find many examples of the specific thing you are looking for. The point is he has shown super speed and has no reason not to use it. This, "we need a scan of every specific thing he can possibly do in a fight" is weird. Post crisis Supes sure as hell was known to use it, but this isn't post crisis Supes.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's mostly Titan and Bran, the rest of the guys are pretty cool.
See? Titan randomly insults everybody. Its like he can't sleep if he doesn't insults someone on internet.

And the irony of you calling me , you get a pre warning in virtually every thread you debate in because of insults and lowballs

Originally posted by Surtur
Yes, I'm starting to understand now. I guess the real change here is knowing who to actually take seriously.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Fine.

Have you got examples, Surtur, of Superman using his speed in fightsfrom the get go?

EEspecially with new villains he has not encountered before? Shouldbe simple and we can put this debate to rest.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8893084/25.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8893106/26.jpg.html

And I doubt Loki has even a fraction of speed feats like Hal does.

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Originally posted by Insane Titan
come back to me when I stoop to your lvls to insult ppl you coward piece of shit.

And the irony of you calling me , you get a pre warning in virtually every thread you debate in because of insults and lowballs

Never change titan, never change.

Yay, an actual response that acknowledges Superman won't sit there and not use his speed.

Originally posted by Dreampanther
Still don't see, even if Supes does use his super speed, how he's going to tell the real Loki from the illusion. Or how he's going to be attacking Loki while Loki sends monsters to attack innocents.

Here is the problem, you say if he uses his seed how can he tell illusions. Thing is, if he uses his speed Loki won't have time to create illusions.

while Supes is still vulnerable to magic

To a point, yes. Though people tend to make mistakes and think he is as vulnerable to it as any normal person. They even did this with post crisis Supes.

nothing about Supes' character indicates that he would charge in with fists swinging - that's totally against his M.O. Loki, on the other hand, has loads of experience dealing with strong boyscouts flying around really fast.

Which comic does Superman discuss his M.O and talk about how he'd just never charge in with his fists? People assume he is against it because he is against killing, but why?

Okay, please explain to me the following logic: Superman is a nice guy, yes? Not just a normal nice guy, but pretty friggin nice. He would want to minimize casualties and collateral damage in a fight, right? I think you can agree that is within his personality. So, with all that in mind, why wouldn't he want to end a fight as quickly as possible? People seem to think he has this fetish where he loves getting hit by powerful attacks, but no..that isn't the case.

Or, to take it one step further, basic knowledge tells us Loki is a magic user. If Superman knows he is vulnerable to magic and is facing a magic user..why is he not using his speed to prevent the person wielding a force he is vulnerable to from using that power to kill him? You would have to believe Superman has a death wish.

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂

Never change titan, never change.

Hiding is your thing

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Fine.

Have you got examples, Surtur, of Superman using his speed in fightsfrom the get go?

EEspecially with new villains he has not encountered before? Shouldbe simple and we can put this debate to rest.

Source JLA #1 AND 2 😄 😛

This is the first time they meet

Originally posted by Insane Titan
come back to me when I stoop to your lvls to insult ppl

I only insulted those who insulted me.

you coward piece of shit.

To quote another poster: irony overload. Seriously, who the hell are you? Just some douchebag who popped in talking shit, calling me "son", which is all kinds of hilarious in and of itself, and then you try to say I'm insulting people. How is that fantasy world you live in? Is it fun? Are there butterscotch rivers and houses made of gingerbread?

And the irony of you calling me , you get a pre warning in virtually every thread you debate in because of insults and lowballs

Yes, definite Irony Overload here.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Pro-tip: Never mention speed in a superman vs a marvel character thread. It makes marvel fans violently upset and creates hilarious scenarios where some thor fans try to equate Thor's speed feats to Superman's speed feats.

Ah, so it is a Marvel fanboy thing. Okay, that makes a lot of sense because DC tends to have more people with high end super speed. People tend to whine about the dreaded "DC Speedblitz", as if lowballing the characters makes it better.

Though Marvel has more cosmics and also a whole shitload of telepaths so it evens out, but you certainly wouldn't see me throwing a b*tch fit if a Marvel telepath beat a DC telepath.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Irony overload

No, you are totally right, I see the error of my ways now. Whenever a character with super speed goes up against a Marvel character..it's best if people just shut up and give the Marvel character the win. This is taken up to 11 when Superman is involved.

With that in mind, yeah, Loki wins this..godlike reflexes,etc. Shadowcat totally stomps Superman too because..umm..logic and stuff.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
no actual answer, knew I was right.

Hiding is your thing

Originally posted by Surtur
I only insulted those who insulted me.

To quote another poster: irony overload. Seriously, who the hell are you? Just some douchebag who popped in talking shit, calling me "son", which is all kinds of hilarious in and of itself, and then you try to say I'm insulting people. How is that fantasy world you live in? Is it fun? Are there butterscotch rivers and houses made of gingerbread?

Yes, definite Irony Overload here.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El

Source JLA #1 AND 2 😄 😛

This is the first time they meet

That's good. And I was expecting those scans.

Five years later (or however long it was after JL1&2): does Supes calm down?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's good. And I was expecting those scans.

Five years later (or however long it was after JL1&2): does Supes calm down?