Well think of it this way, Adult Gohan, while weaker than his SSJ2 self, was stronger than Cell still. Dabra was slightly > Cell according to Goku measuring his ki, and Gohan was more or less equal with him.
Broly straight up stomped him, no sold him, etc. I honestly don't see the stomp. In anyone's favor.
Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
That Broly was stronger having just recovered from a near death experience. On top of Gohan being weaker at that time. SSJ2 Teen Gohan is much stronger. And Cell is arguably stronger than Broly in his first movie.
After Super Saiyan status was achieved, not a single saiyan was recorded to have a power up from a near death experience ever again. Not Vegeta after #18, not Goku after #19, not Gohan after buu, etc. Before that, every single time a power up was achieved, it was mentioned in some way. Whether by the character himself or others like Frieza. I don't see Broly having got a power up. Even if he had though, I'm using his strongest form so...it's irrelevant.
Originally posted by Damborgson
After Super Saiyan status was achieved, not a single saiyan was recorded to have a power up from a near death experience ever again. Not Vegeta after #18, not Goku after #19, not Gohan after buu, etc. Before that, every single time a power up was achieved, it was mentioned in some way. Whether by the character himself or others like Frieza. I don't see Broly having got a power up. Even if he had though, I'm using his strongest form so...it's irrelevant.
It wasn't stated, but it was obvious. And how do you know Vegeta and Goku didn't get a power up? Granted they had more training the next time they fought but they were still stronger. Even Cell got a power up after the Super Saiyan forms were achieved. All saiyans get a power up after a near death experience, the tougher the opponent the bigger the power up, that's what Vegeta said. Broly got a hole punched through him, hit by a meoterite, drifted through Space and got frozen to boot. He would wake much more powerful than before. I'm thinking at least 20%.
There's nothing obvious about something that is neither shown or stated. it's simply not showing. If you can cite a single power up, notably, for a saiyan recovering from a near death experience, than I'll concede.
But power ups before the super saiyan, were always notable. Vegeta's strength against Frieza like quadrupled at one point.
That said, it isn't relevant as the strength would still apply to Broly and it would essentially guarantee he does not get wrecked.
Let me put it this way. Broly really wanted to kill Goku. He was punching and throwing the Z fighters around like dolls. The Cell Jrs were a little stronger than Trunks and Vegeta. When Broly throttled Vegeta he still lived. Broly never seemed to be holding back. So say Broly was fighting the Cell Jrs. He would throttle them like he did Goku. But SSJ 2 Gohan hit them once and they full on exploded. That puts SSJ 2 GOhan well ahead of Broly in his first appearance as he didn't fully implode the Z-Fighters with a single punch. So either Broly got stronger in the second coming or Gohan got DRASTICALLY weaker than teen Gohan.
That's a bit flawed.
Plot is what saved Goku, let's not get ahead of ourselves. Even after his near death experience, Goku couldn't put a speck of dust on Broly. Nor could trunks or Gohan. In fact, all were taken our just as easy as they were the first time by Broly. Vegeta lived because Broly felt like it too. Why else besides plot would Broly have stopped squeezing his head?
The movie just couldn't revolve around Broly punching holes through the series' heroes. Cell Jr's on the other hand, were very much disposable characters. Gohan did get weaker, he became only slightly stronger than Perfect Cell. It's the ease at which Broly pounded him that confirms that you're stance though: "Gohan wrecks him brutally." cannot be correct.
Originally posted by Damborgson
That's a bit flawed.Plot is what saved Goku, let's not get ahead of ourselves. Even after his near death experience, Goku couldn't put a speck of dust on Broly. Nor could trunks or Gohan. In fact, all were taken our just as easy as they were the first time by Broly. Vegeta lived because Broly felt like it too. Why else besides plot would Broly have stopped squeezing his head?
The movie just couldn't revolve around Broly punching holes through the series' heroes. Cell Jr's on the other hand, were very much disposable characters. Gohan did get weaker, he became only slightly stronger than Perfect Cell. It's the ease at which Broly pounded him that confirms that you're stance though: "Gohan wrecks him brutally." cannot be correct.
So what you are saying is that Broly could have punched holes through Goku and company but he didn't want to even though he was an uncontrollable rage monster? You've ignored the fact that Gohan obliterated creatures slightly stronger than Vegeta and Trunks with minimal effort. The fact stands that this thread is Teen SSJ2 Gohan vs Broly. All you have is your personal opinion. I'll agree Broly stopped on Vegeta because he was having fun, but that doesn't excuse his blood lusted attacks on Goku while yelling KAKAROT! There is no way he was holding back.
Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
So what you are saying is that Broly could have punched holes through Goku and company but he didn't want to even though he was an uncontrollable rage monster? You've ignored the fact that Gohan obliterated creatures slightly stronger than Vegeta and Trunks with minimal effort. The fact stands that this thread is Teen SSJ2 Gohan vs Broly. All you have is your personal opinion. I'll agree Broly stopped on Vegeta because he was having fun, but that doesn't excuse his blood lusted attacks on Goku while yelling KAKAROT! There is no way he was holding back.
Yes the legendary super saijen with galaxy busting gets beaten by teen gohan..What planet do you live on?
Brolly took the whole team out while laughing at them.
Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
I know he destroyed a galaxy, but who's to say Gohan can't? If you'll notice, the stars were slowly turning off, it wasn't a massive explosion.
You are asking me to back my claims which I did, then saying Gohan can without backing it by saying "can't he?"
Broly wiped the floor with the whole team. Gohan had trouble beating cell which took over and over encouragement from his father.