Fingolfin and Feanor vs Naruto

Melkor's at the level of '**** Up Continents Effortlessly' and what the ****, Juubi's only on continent busting. In a battle between Melkor and the Juubi, Melkor wins

I don't care what any of you say, any Valar destroys Narutoverse

About the starbustings, Melkor, at the last battle, titled the Dagor Dorgorath, Morgoth will regain the power that he once held as Melkor, and break the Doors of Day and Night, and come back to Arda, and then he will destroy the Sun and the Moon

The sun in Arda is a boat.

You clearly don't know what you're talking about. 👆

Originally posted by ares834
Which is why I said "in some of the later (and cosmologically accurate) versions of the Silmarillion". The Published Silmarillion is actually based on earlier but more complete versions.

What did you say that implies the moon is not a boat though?

Nor did I imply that Melkor isn't a coward. He is. However, in his prime, he is still the greatest at combat as evident by him single handily battling all the Valar by his lonesome.

He ran like a little girl the moment Tulkas set foot on Arda, piss streaming down to his ankles as he fled.

Edit: BTW, I'm not saying this is the "canon" version of the creation of the moon; Tolkien himself deliberately rejected it. I simply brought it up to show what level Tolkien intended that Prime Melkor operated at.

Maybe that was rejected also because he didn't intend Melkor to be that powerful? 👆

Originally posted by NemeBro
What did you say that implies the moon is not a boat though?

Nope. At this time Tolkien was trying to create a more cosmologically correct ME. For example, the Sun was around from the beginning and it was far larger than Arda. Heck, Melkor in this story creates the moon by ripping a chunk of the Earth off and throwing it into space...

Originally posted by NemeBro
Maybe that was rejected also because he didn't intend Melkor to be that powerful? 👆

Once again, nope. It's pretty much explained why Tolkien got rid of the story. Basically, the Elves venerate and cherish the moon while the servants of evil fear and hate it; so it wouldn't make sense for Melkor to create it.

Incorrect the sun is not a boat, its a fruit that comes from the two trees of Valinor. you really don't know what the **** your talking about

What your talking about is Tolkiens round world version of his story Ares

Anyway, Melkor really does destroy the sun and the moon, it isn't some legend and the like, but the sun isn't exactly like ours, but is is a massive ball containing a large amount of light energy

Tulkas is the best warrior of the Valar, and is physically the strongest. anyway I don't see how its bad losing to Tulkas, when your weakened, its not called being a pussy. Have you even read the Silmarillion and the books of middle earth's history? because the way your acting I'd say your a two year old that hasn't even touched those books Neme.
Now I think I'm going to dig up my large archive of Tolkien books for the Sillmarillion and the other history of middle earth books, very soon

Originally posted by Kadan
Incorrect the sun is not a boat, its a fruit that comes from the two trees of Valinor. you really don't know what the **** your talking about

The sun is a boat. And so is the moon.

At least some of the stars are also boats.

Tolkien liked boats.

Originally posted by Kadan
Tulkas is the best warrior of the Valar, and is physically the strongest. anyway I don't see how its bad losing to Tulkas, when your weakened, its not called being a pussy. Have you even read the Silmarillion and the books of middle earth's history? because the way your acting I'd say your a two year old that hasn't even touched those books Neme.
Now I think I'm going to dig up my large archive of Tolkien books for the Sillmarillion and the other history of middle earth books, very soon

Originally posted by ares834
Nope. At this time Tolkien was trying to create a more cosmologically correct ME. For example, the Sun was around from the beginning and it was far larger than Arda. Heck, Melkor in this story creates the moon by ripping a chunk of the Earth off and throwing it into space...

All right, that's cool, but it isn't canon. Which is another way of saying I don't give a **** about what this hypothetical Melkor did in this hypothetical Arda. If it was deliberately rejected, rather than just something not implemented, the amount of ****s I give basically don't exist.

Once again, nope. It's pretty much explained why Tolkien got rid of the story. Basically, the Elves venerate and cherish the moon while the servants of evil fear and hate it; so it wouldn't make sense for Melkor to create it.

So he didn't is what you're saying?

It's not really a feat if he didn't do it in canon tho.

Also how big was it?

True, but its still largely more a fruit then a boat, since the fruit is what makes it what it is, hence it being a fruit

You know, you really have no idea of what the **** your talking about

I ****ing started this thread, I can do what the **** I want

Originally posted by NemeBro
All right, that's cool, but it isn't canon. Which is another way of saying I don't give a **** about what this hypothetical Melkor did in this hypothetical Arda. If it was deliberately rejected, rather than just something not implemented, the amount of ****s I give basically don't exist.

Tolkien rejected the published Silmarillion as well.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Also how big was it?

It was the size of the moon... The whole reason Tolkien was rewriting the Silmarillion was to make it cosmologically accurate.

Why in the **** is everyone fighting over something this thread isn't even about?

Originally posted by NemeBro
I'm pretty sure I've already brought up what I've read, and Morgoth was definitely a pussy, but can you be quiet? The adults have things to discuss.

Originally posted by Kadan
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Hey Nemebro, be quit, the adults here have a lot of things to do other then listening to a baby. 😈

Wow, NemeBro managed to strip you off your dignity in only a couple of pages.