Originally posted by Magnon
You mean the guy who earlier teamed up with a bunch of skyfathers against a single celestial and got roflstomped? Who then spent ages to prep for their next coming, only to get roflstomped again?
Stop trolling, zop. A Celestial being killed by Jarnbjorn is no more a poor showing for the Celestial, then it is for Superman to be killed by Kryptonite.
The spell Thor cast on Jarnbjorn was a plot-device/dues ex machina designed to kill Celestials. Kang referring to it as a 'simple enchantment' changes nothing.
Originally posted by zopzop
Yeah that guy. Because he could have killed them at any time but didn't want to :
One shot KO/Kill.
Well then, seems like Odin is psychologically incapable of using that weapon against the Celestials. After all, the Celestials did threaten to destroy the Earth, imprison the Gods in their realms and ban their access to the Earth's dimension, all while they humiliated the council of skyfathers who tried to fight back in vain. And not just once but multiple times. Odin and the other skyfathers spent decades, centuries preparing for the next arrival of the Celestials, but still couldn't beat them. They didn't use the PIS axe even though the alternative could very well have been the destruction of the Earth and the associated god-realms. Odin has proven, beyond doubt, incapable of using that weapon under any circumstance, even if it means utter defeat for him.
Sounds ridiculous? Yeah, that's what that PIS axe indeed was. But in any case it won't help the team in this fight.
Originally posted by Galan007
Stop trolling, zop. A Celestial being killed by Jarnbjorn is no more a poor showing for the Celestial, then it is for Superman to be killed by Kryptonite.The spell Thor cast on Jarnbjorn was a plot-device/dues ex machina designed to kill Celestials. Kang referring to it as a 'simple enchantment' changes nothing.
Originally posted by Magnon
Well then, seems like Odin is psychologically incapable of using that weapon against the Celestials. After all, the Celestials did threaten to destroy the Earth, imprison the Gods in their realms and ban their access to the Earth's dimension, all while they humiliated the council of skyfathers who tried to fight back in vain. And not just once but multiple times. Odin and the other skyfathers spent decades, centuries preparing for the next arrival of the Celestials, but still couldn't beat them. They didn't use the PIS axe even though the alternative could very well have been the destruction of the Earth and the associated god-realms. Odin has proven, beyond doubt, incapable of using that weapon under any circumstance, even if it means utter defeat for him.Sounds ridiculous? Yeah, that's what that PIS axe indeed was. But in any case it won't help the team in this fight.
Originally posted by Magnon👆
Well then, seems like Odin is psychologically incapable of using that weapon against the Celestials. After all, the Celestials did threaten to destroy the Earth, imprison the Gods in their realms and ban their access to the Earth's dimension, all while they humiliated the council of skyfathers who tried to fight back in vain. And not just once but multiple times. Odin and the other skyfathers spent decades, centuries preparing for the next arrival of the Celestials, but still couldn't beat them. They didn't use the PIS axe even though the alternative could very well have been the destruction of the Earth and the associated god-realms. Odin has proven, beyond doubt, incapable of using that weapon under any circumstance, even if it means utter defeat for him.Sounds ridiculous? Yeah, that's what that PIS axe indeed was. But in any case it won't help the team in this fight.
Odin made it clear that he would not use the 'Celestial-slaying' enchantment under any circumstances, as the long-term cons of killing a Celestial far outweighed the pros:
But a brash/stupid/young Thor didn't think twice about activating said spell in order to take his revenge on Apoc--which pissed off Odin tremendously:
Originally posted by zopzopThat doesn't forbid me from correcting a stupid statement when I see one. 👆
No one was talking to you, so........
Originally posted by Galan007
That doesn't forbid me from correcting a stupid statement when I see one. 👆
This doesn't even include :
a) random gun in Reed's closet wtf owned a "mighty" Rogue Celestial
b) Hickman's Failbrand killing a Rogue Celestial
😆
Owning Celestials isn't all that impressive.
Originally posted by Galan007
Stop trolling, zop. A Celestial being killed by Jarnbjorn is no more a poor showing for the Celestial, then it is for Superman to be killed by Kryptonite.The spell Thor cast on Jarnbjorn was a plot-device/dues ex machina designed to kill Celestials. Kang referring to it as a 'simple enchantment' changes nothing.
Although I suppose it is much easier to buffoonishly troll then it is to accept the facts. /shrug
Originally posted by Galan007
You're ignoring the facts/context behind the spell that made Jarnbjorn a dues ex machina Celestial-slaying piece of weaponry, and acting like a Celestial being killed by the aforementioned represents a poor showing for the Celestial.Yes, that defines trolling. 👆
Originally posted by carver9
😕Context Zop. Don't understand why you ignore it.
All of them were in context. The axe is a proven Celestial killer, just because Odin didn't want to use it doesn't mean jack. The Twins used it to kill AT LEAST dozens of Celestials (judging by the number of seeds they accumulated).
Destroying a Celestial isn't anything to brag about anymore.
Originally posted by zopzop...Which is no more a poor showing for the Celestials then it is for Superman to be killed by a Kryptonite bullet to the head.
The axe is a proven Celestial killer, just because Odin didn't want to use it doesn't mean jack. The Twins used it to kill AT LEAST dozens of Celestials (judging by the number of seeds they accumulated).
That is the context you're trollishly ignoring. 👆
Originally posted by zopzop
The axe was just one example. I gave you more examples of Celestials getting owned : random Reed gun and Failbrand.All of them were in context. The axe is a proven Celestial killer, just because Odin didn't want to use it doesn't mean jack. The Twins used it to kill AT LEAST dozens of Celestials (judging by the number of seeds they accumulated).
Destroying a Celestial isn't anything to brag about anymore.
Thanos got his heart snatched out by a weakened Drax. I guess we agree he sucks, correct?
Originally posted by Galan007
...Which is no more a poor showing for the Celestials then it is for Superman to be killed by a Kryptonite bullet to the head.That is the context you're trollishly ignoring. 👆
Then you have the RANDOM gun in Reed's closet killing an "uber" Rogue Celestial with one shot, or Hickman's Failbrand killing one. Or Magneto/Sinister using and abusing Tiamut (one of the most powerful 616 Celestials) like a cheap whore. There's probably more examples I'm not recalling right now, but that should be enough.
Even if people use the "kryptonite" excuse for the axe, it doesn't take away the rest of their recent and pathetic ownings.
Originally posted by carver9
Thanos got his heart snatched out by a weakened Drax. I guess we agree he sucks, correct?
Originally posted by zopzop
Already explained on panel that Thanos was weakened when that happened, as evidenced by the fact he never pulled anything like that before or after that incident. Try harder Carver.
You misinterpreted that scene. It wasn't that he was weakened during that scene (what weakened him Zop)...what they were saying was, Drax pulling that stunt weakened him as shown when he was resurrected.
Originally posted by Galan007
That is the only example I have been referencing, so yes, I do understand. Do you? 🙂Glad you're halfassedly changing your tune on that scene, though. 👆
Let me run this by you slowly so you understand. Odin, a guy on T1, created an enchantment capable of ONE SHOT KILLING A CELESTIAL. The axe is nothing, it's the ENCHANTMENT on the axe, CREATED BY ODIN, that gives it the power to kill a Celestial.
What's worse, ANY PERSON of Odin's bloodline is capable of turning ANY WEAPON into a Celestial killer by using this simple enchantment.
Odin didn't "just" create Celestial kryptonite, he made it possible for ANYONE OF HIS BLOODLINE (Baldur, Vidar, Thor, etc...) to create a Celestial killer by enchanting it with that spell.
