Celestials split universes physically:
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Galactus overpower a Celestial physically:
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Originally posted by eaebiakuya
Celestials split universes physically:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123396/2988935-celestials_create_multiverse_02.jpgGalactus overpower a Celestial physically:
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Galactus' power level is not the topic of this thread. This is about passive durability, in which Juggernaut beats Galactus. Lets consider another example: pretty much everyone should agree that Franklin is more powerful than Luke Cage; yet, passively, Luke is way more durable than Franklin. Scans of Franklin creating pocket universes or second suns would be irrelevant in proving otherwise.
(However, if this thread was about Galactus' power level... It's funny how the Galactus fans are always so eager to point out Galactus being hungry or whatnot when he has a poor showing, but no one ever mentions how Galactus had supercharged himself beyond his normal power levels when he was fighting the Celestials. Hypocricy at its best.)
Galactus can go to "h2h" against a Celestial, who can split a universe with a punch. How it is not a durability feat ? You think a Celestial can one shot Galactus with a punch ? Because im sure he can one shot Juggernaut.
Juggernaut cannot overpower phisically War Hulk wich has less than 1/1000 of a Celestial power.
Question for Magnon: if , using your example, Franklin is shown to be able to create second suns/pocket universes....what do you think would be the results if he tried to increase his own durability? Or is that beyond his powers?
Back to the thread. If Galactus is able to punch a Celestial, then rip them apart, how durable do you think his fingers/hands are? And then, would you extend it across to the rest of his body?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Question for Magnon: if , using your example, Franklin is shown to be able to create second suns/pocket universes....what do you think would be the results if he tried to increase his own durability? Or is that beyond his powers?
No, it is well within Franklin's powers to enhance his durability to ridiculous levels. Not sure if the junior has the skill to safely meddle with his own physiology yet, but adult Frank certainly could make himself withstand Black Bolt's voice, for example.
Originally posted by eaebiakuya
Galactus can go to "h2h" against a Celestial, who can split a universe with a punch. How it is not a durability feat ? You think a Celestial can one shot Galactus with a punch ? Because im sure he can one shot Juggernaut.Juggernaut cannot overpower phisically War Hulk wich has less than 1/1000 of a Celestial power.
I think your argument is weak or fails at the following points:
- G vs C having been a h2h fight
- C being able to split a universe with a punch
- G vs C being a durability feat for G
- J being unable to overpower WH physically
- using a random figure 1/1000
Originally posted by Magnon
No, it is well within Franklin's powers to enhance his durability to ridiculous levels. Not sure if the junior has the skill to safely meddle with his own physiology yet, but adult Frank certainly could make himself withstand Black Bolt's voice, for example.
Kid Franklin received a Celestial Beam to the face and was only Koed for some moments.
Originally posted by Magnon
Galactus' power level is not the topic of this thread. This is about passive durability, in which Juggernaut beats Galactus. Lets consider another example: pretty much everyone should agree that Franklin is more powerful than Luke Cage; yet, passively, Luke is way more durable than Franklin. Scans of Franklin creating pocket universes or second suns would be irrelevant in proving otherwise.(However, if this thread was about Galactus' power level... It's funny how the Galactus fans are always so eager to point out Galactus being hungry or whatnot when he has a poor showing, but no one ever mentions how Galactus had supercharged himself beyond his normal power levels when he was fighting the Celestials. Hypocricy at its best.)
Except franklin in control of his powers could probably make himself way more durable than luke cage, and tank galaxy+ level blasts. A well fed Galactus is above even Cytorrak.
Originally posted by eaebiakuyaHow do you know it takes physical force to split a universe? That's manipulation of time and space there which has nothing to do with physical strength.
Galactus can go to "h2h" against a Celestial, who can split a universe with a punch. How it is not a durability feat ? You think a Celestial can one shot Galactus with a punch ? Because im sure he can one shot Juggernaut.Juggernaut cannot overpower phisically War Hulk wich has less than 1/1000 of a Celestial power.
Also, you can't use a character's highest showings towards just any other showing in comics. In the same comic maybe depending on the circumstances but definitely not in different comics. Otherwise, I can prove Colossus can tank planet destroying punches and other nonsense things.
Originally posted by Magnonlol at the top part.
Galactus' power level is not the topic of this thread. This is about passive durability, in which Juggernaut beats Galactus. Lets consider another example: pretty much everyone should agree that Franklin is more powerful than Luke Cage; yet, passively, Luke is way more durable than Franklin. Scans of Franklin creating pocket universes or second suns would be irrelevant in proving otherwise.(However, if this thread was about Galactus' power level... It's funny how the Galactus fans are always so eager to point out Galactus being hungry or whatnot when he has a poor showing, but no one ever mentions how Galactus had supercharged himself beyond his normal power levels when he was fighting the Celestials. Hypocricy at its best.)
And the second battle he basically got killed and it took all the energy Frank had to bring him back. If anything he'd be weakened as opposed to "still supercharged".
Though that's also under the assumption that he was actually amped in the first place as opposed to "full" with an extended power supply.
Though, does anyone want to actually name a more impressive durability feat from Juggernaut when they claim he wins?
Originally posted by h1a8
How do you know it takes physical force to split a universe? That's manipulation of time and space there which has nothing to do with physical strength.Also, you can't use a character's highest showings towards just any other showing in comics. In the same comic maybe depending on the circumstances but definitely not in different comics. Otherwise, I can prove Colossus can tank planet destroying punches and other nonsense things.
Lol, that is exactly what you and every other Juggerwanker is doing in this thread.
Originally posted by Magnon
No, it is well within Franklin's powers to enhance his durability to ridiculous levels. Not sure if the junior has the skill to safely meddle with his own physiology yet, but adult Frank certainly could make himself withstand Black Bolt's voice, for example.
Originally posted by Magnon
Galactus' power level is not the topic of this thread. This is about passive durability, in which Juggernaut beats Galactus. Lets consider another example: pretty much everyone should agree that Franklin is more powerful than Luke Cage; yet, passively, Luke is way more durable than Franklin. Scans of Franklin creating pocket universes or second suns would be irrelevant in proving otherwise.(However, if this thread was about Galactus' power level... It's funny how the Galactus fans are always so eager to point out Galactus being hungry or whatnot when he has a poor showing, but no one ever mentions how Galactus had supercharged himself beyond his normal power levels when he was fighting the Celestials. Hypocricy at its best.)
He ripped apart Celestials after being revived by Jr Franklin's power.😬
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
lol at the top part.
Just pure lol directed at it.And the second battle he basically got killed and it took all the energy Frank had to bring him back. If anything he'd be weakened as opposed to "still supercharged".
Though that's also under the assumption that he was actually amped in the first place as opposed to "full" with an extended power supply.Though, does anyone want to actually name a more impressive durability feat from Juggernaut when they claim he wins?
That depends on where you put kid Frank's energy with respect to planets and the other shit which Galactus normally feeds on. Methinks that a power source capable of creating pocket universe with ease should be a tad bit above planetary energies.
Originally posted by Epicurus
Because 2 Celestials were portrayed as punching and shattering the prime universe into a multiple universe. Using nothing but will.Lol, that is exactly what you and every other Juggerwanker is doing in this thread.
Yes they were punching, but it takes energy manipulation to do what they did. You have to separate TIME and SPACE to do that.
We are not doing that to Juggs. There is a difference of using Juggs feats to reference his power level in a FORUM FIGHT and using Juggs feats to reference his power level in ANOTHER COMIC SCENE.
Originally posted by eaebiakuya
In comics we learn that PHYSICAL strengh CAN break time and space (superboy prime ?)Best feat of Jugg i saw here was withstand a weakened Godblast. This not enough to say he is more durable than Galactus.
Didn't prime have a plot device to help him do that?
I say it is, considering it WAS EQUAL to the one can bust up Exitar's dome and Juggs didn't even feel it at all.
But it was not equal for SURE. Did Mjolnir exploded in the Godblast against Juggernaut ? No ? Then it was not equal.
Godblast against Celestial had so much power that even the hammer with the belt didnt withstand the energy.
And you know that Godblast is based in Thor energy. He was weakened against Juggernaut. Thor weakened = less power in Godblast.
Originally posted by eaebiakuya
But it was not equal for SURE. Did Mjolnir exploded in the Godblast against Juggernaut ? No ? Then it was not equal.Godblast against Celestial had so much power that even the hammer with the belt didnt withstand the energy.
And you know that Godblast is based in Thor energy. He was weakened against Juggernaut. Thor weakened = less power in Godblast.
It was equal because that was the writer's intentions in his narrative. Mjolnir was weaker in durability prior than it was later.
Originally posted by h1a8
Yes they were punching, but it takes energy manipulation to do what they did. You have to separate TIME and SPACE to do that.
Or should I list the umpteen instances in comics where characters punch a hole in the fabric of spacetime using nothing but brute force? I guess I'll have to, for the benefit of the troll who has never read a single comic book in his entire life.
Originally posted by h1a8
We are not doing that to Juggs.
