Hiruzen Sarutobi vs Hashirama Senju

Started by SSJGGogeta2 pages

It was outright stated that, when he was in his prime, Sarutobi was the strongest Kage that there was.

No distinction of it barring sage mode, but I assume not. I also wouldn't put it past him knowing a monkey sage mode or something, given that he did know EVERY SINGLE JUTSU in the leaf village.

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he still is ashura's reincarnation so hiruzen loses

If we're to go by their appearances as Edo Tensei, the Hokage get weaker with each generation lol.

Hashirama>Tobirama>Hiruzen>Minato>Tsunade

But I'd like to believe that Hiruzen at his peak could best Tobirama.

Minato and Hiruzen are likely still tougher than Tobirama. He's closer to Tsunade's level really.

That said of course Hashirama wins this match lol.

Originally posted by yungz22
he still is ashura's reincarnation so hiruzen loses

Um... That doesn't matter.

Naruto lost to Kimimaro, lol.

And btw, Hiruzen was still stated to be the strongest of the Hokage, when he was in his prime.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Um... That doesn't matter.

Naruto lost to Kimimaro, lol.

And btw, Hiruzen was still stated to be the strongest of the Hokage, when he was in his prime.

kimmimaro is one of the strongest ninja in the verse. had he been there during the invasion of the leaf it would have been a success. He even was seconds away from killing gaara so i dont see your point.....Also naruto hadnt realized his full potential at that point.

How does any of that connects to hashirama?

The statement about Hiruzen being the strongest is outdated and clearly has no backing due to Hashirama's far superior feats. It was also a statement made by Iruka, someone with no significant knowledge of the first. The fact that someone considers his opinion more substantial than actual feats is laughable.

Yes, Iruka is not a primary source, he's only ever seen two Kage... and I don't think he realized how good Minato was.

Hiruzen seems very versatile, and very smart, but he doesn't have the high chakra level, or an unusual area of speciality like the time-space teleporting Minato had.

I think his thing was basically, 'if there's a normal jutsu, he has the counter, and he will use it.'

feats beat speculation and hashi whoops hiruzen in that department

Yes. No kage beats Hashirama in feats. Heck, the other Hokage combined may have problems!

Arguably Naruto, tbh.

Oh woops, wasn't thinking Naruto ^^ Naruto could beat him, yea.