Originally posted by NemeBroI don't have to. He can move so fast he can redirect Superman's punches to hit himself. We see QS do so in the film. QS also makes bullets move slower than snails in comparison.
Because it moves really fast and is really small.Prove QS hits hard enough to hurt Superman.
Being small has nothing to do with it. Its speed. Shoot a bigger projectile at that speed and it will do more damage.
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We see QS do it to human beings. Prove he can overpower Superman.
No, being small has a lot to do with it. If it was the same weight and much bigger, it would do relatively little damage. The standard 9mm handgun bullet only carries about 500 joules of kinetic energy. Due to it small size and tendency to break apart once it hits a person it can kill a man easily though.
Originally posted by NemeBroHe doesn't have to overpower either. You can't resist someone if you can't see the attack coming or tense up. It's called moving dead weight.
We see QS do it to human beings. Prove he can overpower Superman.No, being small has a lot to do with it. If it was the same weight and much bigger, it would do relatively little damage. The standard 9mm handgun bullet only carries about 500 joules of kinetic energy. Due to it small size and tendency to break apart once it hits a person it can kill a man easily though.
If you can fire a bigger bullet the size of a hand at the same speed it will do more damage due to being bigger. Thats common sense.
You are very biased when it comes to Superman. You also don't understand how superspeed works obviously.
Originally posted by quanchi112QS doesn't stop time, he just moves fast enough that it moves slowly, and Superman is much faster than the humans he used that on, and considerably stronger.
He doesn't have to overpower either. You can't resist someone if you can't see the attack coming or tense up. It's called moving dead weight.If you can fire a bigger bullet the size of a hand at the same speed it will do more damage due to being bigger. Thats common sense.
You are very biased when it comes to Superman. You also don't understand how superspeed works obviously.
It wouldn't be a bullet then. It would be a cannon ball, which could do damage beyond bullets because they were much heavier. 500 joules of energy is less energy than a car cruising down the suburbs, which a person can survive being hit by with probably greater success than being shot with a bullet. Why is that? Because the bullet is much smaller, and because of its tendency to break on penetration, causing severe internal bleeding or organ failure. This of course can't apply to QS unless he plans on breaking his fingers off upon punching Superman. Which might happen actually.
You know, I get that you like to troll, but why did you try to bring up the bullet comparison when you didn't actually know the science behind it?
Originally posted by NemeBro
QS doesn't stop time, he just moves fast enough that it moves slowly, and Superman is much faster than the humans he used that on, and considerably stronger.It wouldn't be a bullet then. It would be a cannon ball, which could do damage beyond bullets because they were much heavier. 500 joules of energy is less energy than a car cruising down the suburbs, which a person can survive being hit by with probably greater success than being shot with a bullet. Why is that? Because the bullet is much smaller, and because of its tendency to break on penetration, causing severe internal bleeding or organ failure. This of course can't apply to QS unless he plans on breaking his fingers off upon punching Superman. Which might happen actually.
You know, I get that you like to troll, but why did you try to bring up the bullet comparison when you didn't actually know the science behind it?
Flawless victory.
Originally posted by NemeBroHe is a lot faster than people but doesn't come close to QS speed. So he is frozen just the same just not as long.
QS doesn't stop time, he just moves fast enough that it moves slowly, and Superman is much faster than the humans he used that on, and considerably stronger.It wouldn't be a bullet then. It would be a cannon ball, which could do damage beyond bullets because they were much heavier. 500 joules of energy is less energy than a car cruising down the suburbs, which a person can survive being hit by with probably greater success than being shot with a bullet. Why is that? Because the bullet is much smaller, and because of its tendency to break on penetration, causing severe internal bleeding or organ failure. This of course can't apply to QS unless he plans on breaking his fingers off upon punching Superman. Which might happen actually.
You know, I get that you like to troll, but why did you try to bring up the bullet comparison when you didn't actually know the science behind it?
You failed to see my point. I am glad you agree size matters when comparing the same speed. To even argue it doesn't and say its just the small size of the bullet is well, stupid. Bigger objects pack more force. A cannonball kills you if it hits you in the stomach due to its greater size whereas you can survive a smaller bullet. I get that you're biased but quit making it so obvious.
QS doesn't need to punch him. He can redirect Superman's limbs in any manner he wants to so he never touches him,.
Originally posted by DreampantherIf a muscle can't contract you aren't using your muscles. If his arm is just frozen without him being aware of what is occurring he can't use his strength or contract the muscle to oppose the resistance. Quit being dense, noob.
And you clearly don't understand basic physics or biology.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He is a lot faster than people but doesn't come close to QS speed. So he is frozen just the same just not as long.
I think you don't understand how superspeed works.
First of all, Superman has shown that he can accurately maneuver and react while flying at speeds several hundred times the speed of sound, but for a moment let's pretend that you have proof that QS is faster.
He won't be "frozen" just for less time, what's going to happen is that Superman for the entire duration will be moving far less slowly than the people will.
Now let's address exactly how fast QS really is. I'll be using the scene where he ****s with all those people while the bullets are flying across the room in slow motion.
Let's assume the guns firing were standard glocks, which have a muzzle velocity of 375 meters per second (I can't recognize guns by their look so someone with more knowledge might be able to provide a more accurate number). Let's say the firing men were, oh, five meters (Or 17 feet) away from their intended victims. Probably too short, but that makes QS seem faster.
Finally, let's assume that QS moved a total of one kilometer during the entire scene. This is a gross overestimation, anyone could see that, but it will prove my point nicely.
Now, since I'm lazy I used this calculator to get the amount of time that bullet would have taken to travel five meters:
http://www.1728.org/velocity.htm
Inputting a velocity 375 meters per second and a distance of five meters gives us the time of 0.013 seconds.
Now how fast does it make QS if he moved a kilometer during this time (He didn't by the way)?
Divide 1,000 meters by 0.013 seconds and you get a velocity of 76,923 meters per second, or about mach 224.
That isn't even nearly as fast as Superman, who can travel one fourth of the planet (So about 10,000 kilometers) in three seconds (Or less). That requires Superman to be going 3,333,333 meters per second. Or mach 9,746.
Superman is faster. 👆
You failed to see my point. I am glad you agree size matters when comparing the same speed.
Right, like how the bullet being smaller improves its lethality.
To even argue it doesn't and say its just the small size of the bullet is well, stupid.
Point out where I said it was "just" the small size of the bullet. 👆
Bigger objects pack more force. A cannonball kills you if it hits you in the stomach due to its greater size whereas you can survive a smaller bullet. I get that you're biased but quit making it so obvious.
Due to its greater weight, there is a difference. 👆
You don't know the science. 🙂
QS doesn't need to punch him. He can redirect Superman's limbs in any manner he wants to so he never touches him,.And will still never hurt him because its still his striking power moving Superman's limbs. Which he still can't do mind you. Superman is stronger and faster. He also wins. 🙂
Anyway, I've won this debate. Don't bother responding further.
Originally posted by NemeBroTraveling in a jet doesn't make a human beings senses greater or for things to slow down like it does for QS. He can slow things down around him unlike Superman who can travel quickly like someone in a jet. It isn't even close to the same thing. QS can perform multiple movements, dance around, screw around, give wedgies, redirect punches, and whatever else he wants making the span of a bullet seem like 20 or so seconds to him. Superman can move from point a to point b really fast not perform comolicated movements while a bullet is fired.
I think you don't understand how superspeed works.First of all, Superman has shown that he can accurately maneuver and react while flying at speeds several hundred times the speed of sound, but for a moment let's pretend that you have proof that QS is faster.
He won't be "frozen" just for less time, what's going to happen is that Superman for the entire duration will be moving far less slowly than the people will.
Now let's address exactly how fast QS really is. I'll be using the scene where he ****s with all those people while the bullets are flying across the room in slow motion.
Let's assume the guns firing were standard glocks, which have a muzzle velocity of 375 meters per second (I can't recognize guns by their look so someone with more knowledge might be able to provide a more accurate number). Let's say the firing men were, oh, five meters (Or 17 feet) away from their intended victims. Probably too short, but that makes QS seem faster.
Finally, let's assume that QS moved a total of one kilometer during the entire scene. This is a gross overestimation, anyone could see that, but it will prove my point nicely.
Now, since I'm lazy I used this calculator to get the amount of time that bullet would have taken to travel five meters:
http://www.1728.org/velocity.htm
Inputting a velocity 375 meters per second and a distance of five meters gives us the time of 0.013 seconds.
Now how fast does it make QS if he moved a kilometer during this time (He didn't by the way)?
Divide 1,000 meters by 0.013 seconds and you get a velocity of 76,923 meters per second, or about mach 224.
That isn't even nearly as fast as Superman.
Superman is faster. 👆
Right, like how the bullet being smaller improves its lethality.
Point out where I said it was "just" the small size of the bullet. 👆
Due to its greater weight, there is a difference. 👆
You don't know the science. 🙂
And will still never hurt him because its still his striking power moving Superman's limbs. Which he still can't do mind you. Superman is stronger and faster. He also wins. 🙂
Anyway, I've won this debate. Don't bother responding further.
You believing Superman is faster is well, stupidity.
QS can save multiple lives while you have Superman being unable to do anything other than moving from point a to point b while massive destruction is taking place.
QS laps the slower Superman. This isn't even close. Redirects his punches while locked in slow mo.
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Also you QS supporters should be ****ing ashamed of yourselves. I've been asking all of you to actually try and quantify his ****ing speed for days, only for me to have to ****ing do it.
As a disclaimer: No, neither of these calcs are accurate. I actually far overestimated QS (Both in terms of the distance he ran and the distance between the gunman and his victims) and underestimated Superman (I didn't bother trying to take into account something like Superman being dozens of kilometers above the planet Earth when he circled it, which would increase the speed tremendously). Because I knew I could. The difference is that great.