^ But you've yet to actually prove Nemebro or daududemon wrong. You haven't given sufficient reasoning as to why QS is faster other than the fact that it looks that way. Nor have you given an believable reason as to why QS would be able to hurt Supes at all.
Oh and since you made a claim that QS is physically strong enough to make Supes punch himself, you wouldn't mind explaining what reasoning you have for thinking that he's that strong in the first place would you?
Originally posted by ares834
Nah, Quanchi's jet analogy is sound (pretty much the only sound argument he made in this thread). Supes, ultimately, has not proven the ability to react at speeds near those of QS.
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Superman will never be able to tag QS. Either the fight ends in stalemate or a Quicksilver victory.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakkaWhy can't he move Supermans arm without his muscle contracting to resist it ?
^ But you've yet to actually prove Nemebro or daududemon wrong. You haven't given sufficient reasoning as to why QS is faster other than the fact that it looks that way. Nor have you given an believable reason as to why QS would be able to hurt Supes at all.Oh and since you made a claim that QS is physically strong enough to make Supes punch himself, you wouldn't mind explaining what reasoning you have for thinking that he's that strong in the first place would you?
How much does his arm weigh !?
I've already destroyed his travel speed logic and shitty calculations. By his logic fighter pilots senses are superhuman.
Originally posted by ares834
Nah, Superman wins. QS can't hurt Kal and eventually, QS will need to rest. When that happens Superman can get the easy win.
I disagree. There's just no way supes catches up with Quicksilver. If Quicksilver remains on the defensive for the whole fight, supes won't even be able to find him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Why can't he move Supermans arm without his muscle contracting to resist it ?How much does his arm weigh !?
I've already destroyed his travel speed logic and shitty calculations. By his logic fighter pilots senses are superhuman.
We've seen how well normal human strength affects Superman. Even at high-speeds I have reason to doubt QS is fast enough to move Supes before that happens.
You tell me since you made the claim.
As exaggerated as the calc is, that still doesn't cover how QS is going to hurt Supes even if he tries to make him hurt himself.
Originally posted by Firefly218
The enormous kinetic energy from his speed
Originally posted by Firefly218
I disagree. There's just no way supes catches up with Quicksilver. If Quicksilver remains on the defensive for the whole fight, supes won't even be able to find him.
Except he can't... QS doesn't have (at least there is no reason to assume that he has) infinite stamina. Eventually he will need to sleep. Which means Superman can catch him off guard. Sure, the same thing can be said about Supes, but in this case QS still can't do any damage.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakkaSuperman's senses are greater than humans so his muscles have time to react and contract.
We've seen how well normal human strength affects Superman. Even at high-speeds I have reason to doubt QS is fast enough to move Supes before that happens.You tell me since you made the claim.
As exaggerated as the calc is, that still doesn't cover how QS is going to hurt Supes even if he tries to make him hurt himself.
QS has him hit himself.
Kryptonian strength hurts him. Acting like it doesn't it well, trolling.
Originally posted by ares834
Except he can't... QS doesn't have (at least there is no reason to assume that he has) infinite stamina. Eventually he will need to sleep. Which means Superman can catch him off guard. Sure, the same thing can be said about Supes, but in this case QS still can't do any damage.
If the same can be said for supes than the fact remains, supes can't ever catch up with Quicksilver.
So unless Quicksilver finds a way to snap Superman's neck, the fight ends in a stalemate.
Originally posted by Firefly218
If the same can be said for supes than the fact remains, supes can't ever catch up with Quicksilver.
Uh, what? Unless they both fall asleep at the exact same time for the exact same length every single time this is irrelevant. Eventually Supes will be awake while QS is asleep. And then he wins.
Originally posted by ares834So you agree QS can manipulate him while he's frozen and then let him react so they contract to hurt himself like the guards. It is Supermans force once he lets him react. He just alters the direction. He doesn't use his own strength to have the guards do do either.
If he is punching his muscles are contracting. If he isn't then the force of the "punch" would only be the force QS exerted and not the force of Supes' punch.
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