yeah, i've posted that. i think it was an x-factor annual. it was always his best battle imo, though he has some weird showings. and stabbing ikaris--an eternal with molecular control--isn't really a big deal and even in the fight it only po'd him. that fight was a long way from a stomp and a long way from over.
Originally posted by leonidas
yeah, i've posted that. i think it was an x-factor annual. it was always his best battle imo, though he has some weird showings. and stabbing ikaris--an eternal with molecular control--isn't really a big deal and even in the fight it only po'd him. that fight was a long way from a stomp and a long way from over.
I'm not saying he had him completely beat but having the advantage, momentary or not, against someone as powerful as Ikaris is noteworthy. Throw in the fact that this was Prime Eternal Ikaris, and it's very impressive imo.
Originally posted by leonidas
so, when exactly did apoc "stomp" ikaris again.......?dd wins.
Not that "normal" Ikaris isn't impressive. He's currently stalemating vs Hammond Torch and Namor all the while holding back. Hammond Torch's flames are no joke and the narrator said they aren't even annoying Ikaris!
Originally posted by leonidas
stalemating ik is NOT the same as stomping and i'd say his showing vs he was more impressive anyway. he's had some very good showings and some not so good. doesn't change my opinion however.
Odin/Thanus-esque "stalemate", if you ask me.
Nur got the upper hand and chose not to finish him.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Tbf, Apocalypse was owning Prime Eternal Ikaris IIRC which is pretty crazy. Ikaris alone is a solid mid herald from what I've seen.What do you mean the Professor version? Merged Hulk or Hulk with the Banner limitation? Either have a higher base and are peers to elite heralds in strength (The Professor version is the one that fought and Thor in Hel) but the Merged Hulk (Intelligent Hulk with the Banner intelligence) has no cap on his strength and consistently outperformed Savage Hulk against enemies.
Not that Apocalypse really beat him or anything. That scene is overrated.
Surprised no one mentioned Apocalypse fighting the Mutants/Inhumans or him taking on Loki.
I mean exactly that; the Professor version. Aka Professor Hulk. Aka Merged Hulk. Lol, Professor Hulk doesn't amp with anger. How in the f*ck does that mean that he had no cap to his strength? For every high feat, he was numerous low showings which put a question mark on him being as powerful potential-wise as Gravage Hulks.
I agree on that.
Considering Loki ultimately defeated him despite his usage of Celestial tech, I don't think that feat can be used to prove much of anything. Apart from the fact that the overrated Apoc is solidly below high heralds.
What about the famous scene where Apocalypse tanks Black Bolt attack + x-factor attacks ? He was amped ?
p.s: i agree the feat against Loki means nothing. They had a super fast fight, no one was hurted at all. Apoc have advantage because Kalibak, Celestial Tech and he had surprise factor (Loki was nothing expeting a attack).