Originally posted by carver9
Superman has been cut just like any Herald. Despero cut his face with his claws.
And Silver Banshee caused him pain with her claws (not necessarily doing actual dmg, but he felt it).
Equus needs to be remembered, too.
Magic beings like them tend to have an easier time doing that.
The planet is still intact from adamantium occurring (until possibly retconned to give the metal an extraterrestrial origin...) in some liquid form plus adamantium is always getting retconned into all the other lower grades to give the characters that possess it more footing against characters with more esoteric power sets. That being said Supeman as well as a few others (Thanos and Destroyer) should be more durable due to being composed of superior elements, surviving the singularities, having manipulating fields that can deflect/absorb much more damage etc. I mean we do know adamantium can liquify and it was liquified on earth without planetary destruction (no wormholes were being used to negate the process of how much energy was used to create or consistently be kept at temperature to liquify it) so I think surviving the one of the most theoretical destructive forces of nature would constitute as having more durability than an element that has to have people constantly finding loopholes for it because it goes against any physical insight. Yet the two big companies have different views on science and treating their characters so u have instances of Logan stabbing Thanos which is quite absurd. While other approaches have been taken that are much more dimensional with say the Plutonian Tony to teleport invulnerable molecules off his extremities to intelligently satisfy the people who are curious how someone would attack someone with an upper bound to their invulnerability as inconsistent as it maybe. Idk maybe if magic is involved then everything I said goes out the window but that is a big if because its not Uru and has been always grounded in science.
Originally posted by Decimus
The planet is still intact from adamantium occurring (until possibly retconned to give the metal an extraterrestrial origin...) in some liquid form plus adamantium is always getting retconned into all the other lower grades to give the characters that possess it more footing against characters with more esoteric power sets. That being said Supeman as well as a few others (Thanos and Destroyer) should be more durable due to being composed of superior elements, surviving the singularities, having manipulating fields that can deflect/absorb much more damage etc. I mean we do know adamantium can liquify and it was liquified on earth without planetary destruction (no wormholes were being used to negate the process of how much energy was used to create or consistently be kept at temperature to liquify it) so I think surviving the one of the most theoretical destructive forces of nature would constitute as having more durability than an element that has to have people constantly finding loopholes for it because it goes against any physical insight. Yet the two big companies have different views on science and treating their characters so u have instances of Logan stabbing Thanos which is quite absurd. While other approaches have been taken that are much more dimensional with say the Plutonian Tony to teleport invulnerable molecules off his extremities to intelligently satisfy the people who are curious how someone would attack someone with an upper bound to their invulnerability as inconsistent as it maybe. Idk maybe if magic is involved then everything I said goes out the window but that is a big if because its not Uru and has been always grounded in science.
What usually seems to happen though, is that the adamantium that has been compromised several times gets a retcon, and is called the secondary impure stuff. Superman being busted open by less on average, (the key word here being average) shows that it would not be surprising if an adamantium weapon wielded by someone of high enough strength should blow right through his natural body armor, and not be shattered on contact. Whereas the Destroyer is without a doubt made of sterner stuff than even the primary adamantium alloy, thus it should shatter upon impacting the construct. I don't see why it wouldn't cut any Herald if enough force were to be generated during the weapons stroke.
Originally posted by Stoic
So is that a yes? I also had no idea that the Indestructible Hulk title was a cossover. I mean since when do cross overs last for more than 2 years? Lol that's pretty silly is what I'm thinking right now.
No, what Carvster, Scandaddy Supreme, did, was smack me down and remind everyone that my comic (where Superman crosses over to the FF) was non canon.
The Indestructible Hulk comics are 100% canon.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No, what Carvster, Scandaddy Supreme, did, was smack me down and remind everyone that my comic (where Superman crosses over to the FF) was non canon.The Indestructible Hulk comics are 100% canon.
Ah OK gotcha. But then again Superman did break out of restraints fashioned from DC's version of adamantium. I wonder if the two are comparable. You do realize that crossovers are canon. Anything printed is technically canon, but on forums it can not be used as evidence. That kind of makes it seem like any argument that a DC character has had with a character from another comics company (and vice verse) has never been proven. Or at least this is the way that I'm taking it. BTW was the Kryptonian Herald of Galactus truly deemed non canon?
Originally posted by Stoic
Ah OK gotcha. But then again Superman did break out of restraints fashioned from DC's version of adamantium. I wonder if the two are comparable. You do realize that crossovers are canon. Anything printed is technically canon, but on forums it can not be used as evidence. That kind of makes it seem like any argument that a DC character has had with a character from another comics company (and vice verse) has never been proven. Or at least this is the way that I'm taking it. BTW was the Kryptonian Herald of Galactus truly deemed non canon?
Potentially, I mean, they are all fictional of course, so if the writers want it to be they can have Karate Kid breaking it etc.
The Kryp Herald storyline is inadmissible purely because its a crossover; whether it is noncanon is another matter, I guess.
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
So the examples of Superman being cut mentioned in here have extenuating circumstances or were performed by above herald tier characters whose bones can survive entrophy 👆
So are you saying that an adamantium blade would be unable to cut Superman? Superman has been cut. Let's not pretend that he hasn't, and this has come from sources with less durability than adamantium. Superman was lacerated by the faux Predator. No one is knocking Superman, but you seem to be gravitating towards a no limits fallacy.
Originally posted by Stoic
So are you saying that an adamantium blade would be unable to cut Superman? Superman has been cut. Let's not pretend that he hasn't, and this has come from sources with less durability than adamantium. Superman was lacerated by the faux Predator. No one is knocking Superman, but you seem to be gravitating towards a no limits fallacy.
I haven't read the issue with the Faux predator but "Superman Pre Reboot" fought the Faux Predator?