I'm still considering my thoughts on the changes made so I'm just gonna throw out some quick thoughts:
- Jaime and Cercei boning and Jaime shoving away the White Book felt super wrong and AGAIN detrimental to Jaime's character. They've utterly dropped the ball with him this season.
- It being ambiguous if Arya didn't kill him because of spite or mercy is great. One good point.
- No Tysha sucks. Seriously, if you couldn't fit it in, cut the damn beetle scene for it. 😬 AGAIN they screw up Jaime.
- Screwing up Cersei in general.
- Tyrion being a big goddamn hero wasn't cool and the scene was rushed.
- No Stoneheart sucks. Point blank. Apparantly the show runners STILL aren't sure what they're doing with her and don't understand the point of her character:
"To bring back Michelle Fairley, one of the greatest actresses around, to be a zombie for a little while—and just kill people? It is really sort of, what are we doing with that? How does it play into the whole story in a way that we’re really going to like?”
Maybe cut out the irrelevant ****ing romances and sex scenes you goddamn hacks! Her story is obviously integral to Brienne and Jaime's.
- The way Jojen died was unintentionally funny.
- Why the shitting f*ck wasn't the Stannis scene at the end of last week?
- Mountain still being alive is ghey.
Some of these changes flat out baffle me. Like, they're so obviously inferior I just don't even know wtf.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Uhhh...I forgot her name.Remember the prostitute that Theon was boning that ended up in the employ of Littlefinger? Remember when Joffrey killed her and Littlefinger seemed pissed about it?
That wasn't in the books.
Littlefinger wasn't pissed about it....he made it happen.
He found out she had betrayed him to Varys, and then was gloating about having her killed, iirc
Originally posted by focus4chumpsWork a bit on your reading comprehension.
you actually laugh about ser gregor's monstrous actions but react with moral outrage when reading of LF? that's weird bro.
I giggled when Ros' corpse was strung up, but dadudemon is asserting that the exact opposite of what happened happened.
Seriously, this is just leaving a real sour taste in my mouth. **** this bullshiiiiiit!
They even make fun of the idea that there's a maester behind the rock in the scene. Dunno how I take that. 😬
That's the same guy who gave us the outstanding Jaime/Cersei consensual sex scene btw.
There's another interview where the writers classify Tywin as Lawful Neutral.
I.... I just...... UUuuuuuuurgh!
But in other news, Gwen Christie owns bones:
And what was going through your mind when you were filming that? Having to face such a huge opponent?It was boiling hot, as it happened, and I really felt for Rory. The costumes are amazing, and they did a great job at making it much easier for me than it has been before, but they’re tough to work with. What’s going through my mind? I’m so into the scene that it becomes real. Rory and I might not be killing each other, but you’re both making contact with those swords. We are two people that really go for it in that situation. Like poor Nikolaj Coster-Waldau last season with the [sword fight] said, “Can you take 10 percent off this please, rather than smashing at me?” Rory and I were quite serious about it. We want there to be contact —rolling around in the dirt on a rock face with your hand bleeding. You’re in pain, just emotional and screaming through it, and blood is pouring out of your mouth and you’re falling over when you’re meant to and falling when you’re not meant to. I like it to be real. So certain things that are done that are very real and you’re genuinely scared because you look into the other person’s eyes and they mean it. It’s frightening—that is one of the few times I’ve not had to do any acting. I was screaming, “F–k you! Come on!” Blood everywhere, going insane. It is f–king mental. You were there on top of a mountain with this surreal landscape around you and the sun is shining and your adrenaline is pumping and you’ve got what looks like blood everywhere and you’re in pain and you’ve got swords and you’re on the floor hitting the living daylights out of each other. I actually lost it at points and would just go in screaming … There’s a beautiful arc to it. The fighting is an immaculate story that goes on and Alex and C.C. Smiff and poor [Paul] Herbert and Dave [Foreman]—all the stuntmen. I didn’t just want it to be a fight, I wanted it to be a physical story that was being told. I worked with [director] Alex Graves and he made it one of the most wonderful experiences. It just looks beautiful and earthy and surreal and it’s a complex emotional scene — and it’s not over yet.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Littlefinger sent her to be killed by her you ****ing psychopath.
He did? Then why did he seem so dejected when he walked in and saw what happened to her? To me, it seemed like he knew he would beat her but I really don't think he thought Joffery would kill her. Lemme go look...maybe I can find a clip.
Edit - Could not find the clip (it would also have been NSFW for this forum because she was naked). But I did find the episode on my end. I don't think he planned for her to be killed as he looks disappointed/shocked that she's dead. I think he thought it was just going to be a severe beating like she did to her coworker, that time before. Joffrey said, "I want to try something new and different." Just sounded like torture. For me, this is Littlefinger's chance to teach a naughty employee a lesson, not have her murdered.
Edit 2 - Also, I think that scene is a strong turning point for Littlefinger. IMO, this is the moment that Littlefinger turns on the Lannisters. That was the last straw. Go back and watch that scene again. Look at the look on his face. That's when those evil wheels in his mind started turning and he opens up a can of death on Joffrey.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm still considering my thoughts on the changes made so I'm just gonna throw out some quick thoughts:- Jaime and Cercei boning and Jaime shoving away the White Book felt super wrong and AGAIN detrimental to Jaime's character. They've utterly dropped the ball with him this season.
- It being ambiguous if Arya didn't kill him because of spite or mercy is great. One good point.
- No Tysha sucks. Seriously, if you couldn't fit it in, cut the damn beetle scene for it. 😬 AGAIN they screw up Jaime.
- Screwing up Cersei in general.
- Tyrion being a big goddamn hero wasn't cool and the scene was rushed.
- No Stoneheart sucks. Point blank. Apparantly the show runners STILL aren't sure what they're doing with her and don't understand the point of her character:
"To bring back Michelle Fairley, one of the greatest actresses around, to be a zombie for a little while—and just kill people? It is really sort of, what are we doing with that? How does it play into the whole story in a way that we’re really going to like?”
Maybe cut out the irrelevant ****ing romances and sex scenes you goddamn hacks! Her story is obviously integral to Brienne and Jaime's.
- The way Jojen died was unintentionally funny.
- Why the shitting f*ck wasn't the Stannis scene at the end of last week?
- Mountain still being alive is ghey.
Some of these changes flat out baffle me. Like, they're so obviously inferior I just don't even know wtf.
Those are all good points except the last one. The Mountain took forever to die in the books. It was many chapters after his fight with Oberyn that Qyburn offered his dark arts to Cersei.
Originally posted by Nephthys
But in other news, Gwen Christie owns bones:
That's badass. She just gets better and better.
Also, I am more than willing to concede that point about Littlefinger. But, remember how we got onto that topic: he takes care of his prostitutes and I said he was a gray protagonist. Let me be clear that him sending an employee to her death because she betrayed him by spying on him and reporting it to one of his enemies does not fall under "evil", in my book. It was a shitty game she was playing with Littlefinger and she lost it. If he was the king, that would have been treason and she could have been executed in front of everyone. Littlefinger thinks he is king (imo) so he had her executed in his own way. It definitely makes him a scumbag, but it doesn't fit the classic definition of evil especially if you take it in context with how their world works. It would be expected for a Lord to execute one of his subjects which is pretty much how that relationship worked.
I sure hope I am making myself clear: Littlefinger is not purely evil or purely good. He is greedy, has faults, can fall in love, and has good qualities. Sansa comments on this in book four. She said it is hard for her to figure out when the "good" version of Littlefinger is around and when the bad one is. And then she said that sometimes she thinks both of them mix.
I should have said "not screaming constantly."
Originally posted by dadudemon
He did? Then why did he seem so dejected when he walked in and saw what happened to her? To me, it seemed like he knew he would beat her but I really don't think he thought Joffery would kill her. Lemme go look...maybe I can find a clip.Edit - Could not find the clip (it would also have been NSFW for this forum because she was naked). But I did find the episode on my end. I don't think he planned for her to be killed as he looks disappointed/shocked that she's dead. I think he thought it was just going to be a severe beating like she did to her coworker, that time before. Joffrey said, "I want to try something new and different." Just sounded like torture. For me, this is Littlefinger's chance to teach a naughty employee a lesson, not have her murdered.
Edit 2 - Also, I think that scene is a strong turning point for Littlefinger. IMO, this is the moment that Littlefinger turns on the Lannisters. That was the last straw. Go back and watch that scene again. Look at the look on his face. That's when those evil wheels in his mind started turning and he opens up a can of death on Joffrey.
What the hell are you talking about?
He's gloating to Varys about it. He wanted her to die.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Seriously, this is just leaving a real sour taste in my mouth. **** this bullshiiiiiit!
That's pretty lame, actually. They don't need to do that kind of stuff.
Originally posted by Nephthys
What the hell are you talking about?He's gloating to Varys about it. He wanted her to die.
Yes, I acknowledge that. But go back and watch that scene (where he discovers Ros' body)*. I honestly don't think he planned for her to die. As the opportunistic assh*le that he is, though, he could not let this opportunity fall through his fingers to make it look like he was still playing (and possibly now winning) his chess game with The Spider.
*Shit. I might be mistaken. Lemme go back and watch that scene again....BRB.
I watched it again and paid attention this time. He didn't discover her body. That was Joffrey walking away.
Also, I change my mind about Littlefinger. He doesn't seem angry about losing Ros. Something else is happening. We are seeing his true-self for just a moment as he talks to Varys. He's a crazy crazy psycho who appears to be the greatest tactician in the land. I originaly heard anger in his voice but now I'm not so sure that was him being upset that Varys made one of his best employees betray him (Littlefinger). Originally, it seemed like anger. Nope. He's just a crazy mother****er. A genius, but mad.