Originally posted by Robtard
But how was Shae rejected in the books? Not remembering that.
iirc tyrion had planned to marry her off to a knight, like you said, but shae felt she deserved a better payoff. i don't remember exactly how it unfolded though.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Very similarly as the show. He was wroth and rejected her...to scare her aware to get her aware from Cersei.
you're wrong
Originally posted by RobtardYou forgot to add "Cersei seduced Shae sexually".
But how was Shae rejected in the books? Not remembering that.Seems to me it went down:
-Tyrion was genuinely worried about Shae and made plans to keep her safe
-Joff's death ruined that
-Cersei got to Shae and paid her off to lie
Originally posted by dadudemon
Very similarly as the show. He was wroth and rejected her...to scare her aware to get her aware from Cersei.
So you're saying book Shae was butthurt over a rejection of love, as show Shae seems to be.
I don't recall that at all and it doesn't fit with the bits I do recall. Book Shae was little more than a gold-digger, is the image I have. I remember Marius and I discussing show Shae last season and how her apparent genuine kindness and affections would screw with book events when it came to Tyrion killing her.
Originally posted by Robtard
So you're saying book Shae was butthurt over a rejection of love, as show Shae seems to be.I don't recall that at all and it doesn't fit with the bits I do recall. Shae was little more than a gold-digger. I remember Marius and I discussing show Shae last season and how her apparent genuine kindness and affections would screw with book events when it came to Tyrion killing her.
she was butthurt because she was not a guest at the wedding. remember her bitching to tyron "why can't i go? i'll pretend to not be a whore, i promise, etc" (paraphrased of course).
no angry outbursts from tyrion. only times he called her a whore is in his internal monologue in an attempt to convince himself to no trust her.
Originally posted by focus4chumps
iirc tyrion had planned to marry her off to a knight, like you said, but shae felt she deserved a better payoff. i don't remember exactly how it unfolded though.you're wrong
No, I'm not.
Tyrion never got to disclose those plans to Shae when he made them because he was imprisoned before he could talk to Shae about them.
BRB, gonna find where Tyrion tried to verbally push Shae away (it happened at least twice in the books).
good luck, because that scene NEVER HAPPENED in the book.
did he say some dickish things to her over the course of their relationship? probably. but thats not what you said before. you said he dumped her "Very similarly as the show. He was wroth and rejected her...to scare her aware to get her away from Cersei." , but fact is he never dumped her and had planned on doing so kindly and even planned on hooking her up with a knight.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Show Shae was given a bunch of money and riches in order to persuade her to leave, but chose to stay for twue wuv.Can book Shae say the same?
Which somewhat plays into what I think might happen, show Shae had always been a spy and why she refused.
At least that's better than her falling madly in love with Tyrion and then betraying him cos A) He sent her off to keep her alive B) Tywin/Cersei forced her with threats. As that's going to look badly on Tyrion when he kills her, since Tyrion of all people would understand how well his father and sister are at intimidation.
Found it.
Chapter 13 of A Storm of Swords. That's where Tyrion seemingly rejects Shae in an attempt to send her away. Shae isn't even subtle about wanting money and goods from Tyrion, at this point:
"Will m'lord give me back my jewels and silks, now? I asked Varys if I could have them when you were hurt in the battle, but he wouldn't give them to me. What would have become of them if you'd died?"
Later Tyrion gets angry with her:
"Shae, gods be damned, stop that. Listen to me. You have to go away..."
More is incoming as I find more...
christ do we have to do this EVERY TIME?
Originally posted by Robtard
But how was Shae rejected in the books? Not remembering that.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Very similarly as the show. He was wroth and rejected her...to scare her aware to get her away from Cersei.
stop trying to prove that tyrion was periodically a dick to her, as nobody contradicted that. you said that the dump scene happened in the books. it didn't. lets just move on and not ruin this thread, ok?
Originally posted by NemeBro
So you agree that book Shae was nothing more than a gold digger?
I thought both were gold diggers. I had no idea I was supposed to be proving one side or the other: I thought I was proving both sides that Shae was a gold digger in the books, too. I did not know that the show was in question (I thought the opposite).
Originally posted by focus4chumps
stop trying to prove that tyrion was periodically a dick to her, as nobody contradicted that. you said that the dump scene happened in the books. it didn't. lets just move on and not ruin this thread, ok?
Nah, it did and I quotted it.
But don't twist my point to mean what you want it to mean just to be right about something. At best, your argument is one of degrees, at the worst, you're completely and utterly wrong.