Galactus with Cosmic Cube vs. Thanos with IG

Started by TheLordofMurder8 pages

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Nope, Classic IG (which is not in this thread; we use the most current version unless stated otherwise) gives one mastery over that reality...

Things have changed and since Warlock and the Infinity Watch #1, the Gems no longer give mastery over anything as there are powers beyond it...

Tribunal could have taken the Gems by force, but it would have wrecked reality...

Unbound CCU has already proved greater than the IG by recreating all the gems without effort...

Galactus 10/10...

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Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
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Ig feats with Thanos are canon thus Thanos easily wins.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Nope, they do not give mastery over any aspect because they can be overruled by powers beyond them; this was proved in Warlock and the Infinity Watch #1 when the Tribunal shocked Warlock and reversed his temper tantrum...

Powers beyond the LT should be fully capable of reversing the IG as well (like Scathan and Protege)...

As pertains an Unbound CCU, it wins the feats battle against the IG and has done more on panel; it recreated all of the Infinity Gems on a whim without effort...a clear feat of power superiority.

Unbound CCU is much more powerful the IG...

Galactus wins...

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Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Nope, Classic IG (which is not in this thread; we use the most current version unless stated otherwise) gives one mastery over that reality...

Things have changed and since Warlock and the Infinity Watch #1, the Gems no longer give mastery over anything as there are powers beyond it...

Tribunal could have taken the Gems by force, but it would have wrecked reality...

Unbound CCU has already proved greater than the IG by recreating all the gems without effort...

Galactus 10/10...

Powers? The LT powered by the TOAA is the only power shown to be above the unified gems. Nothing changed.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Powers? The LT powered by the TOAA is the only power shown to be above the unified gems. Nothing changed.

Lots has changed...

Prior to Warlock and the Infinity Watch #1, the IG was all-powerful, but in that famous issue the gems were shown to not be all-powerful as there were now powers beyond it...

There are beings superior to "TOAA powered" LT like Scathan and Protege; they logically are superior to the gems as well...

As pertains an Unbound CCU, this power proved capable of recreating all of the Infinity Gems (as well as ALL of reality) on a whim without effort...clearly demostrating a power superiority...

So yeah, things have changed...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
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Ig wins based off the evidence.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ig wins based off the evidence.

The evidence shows Unbound CCU superiority; you simply blind yourself and ignore the truth...

Galactus wins again...10/10!

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
The evidence shows Unbound CCU superiority; you simply blind yourself and ignore the truth...

Galactus wins again...10/10!

Even if that were true and it isn't the ig is always a step ahead and has mastery over time and space.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Even if that were true and it isn't the ig is always a step ahead and has mastery over time and space.

IG gives mastery over nothing; there are powers beyond it...it can be out amped and overpowered.

Is that concept too complicated for your feeble brain to comprehend?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
IG gives mastery over nothing; there are powers beyond it...it can be out amped and overpowered.

Is that concept too complicated for your feeble brain to comprehend?

When has it been retconned that it gives mastery over nothing ? What are you talking about ? You seem kind of unstable tbh.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When has it been retconned that it gives mastery over nothing ? What are you talking about ? You seem kind of unstable tbh.

It was retconned into not being all-powerful (and thus giving mastery over nothing) several times...

Warlock and the Infinity Watch #1...

The HotU/I arc...

When Spidey used Unbound CCU power to effortlessly recreate ALL of reality...

And you are aware of all of this; you just let your Thanos lust blind you...

Shed your bias Quanchi...

Come to the light...

You can be saved...

Admit that you are wrong and that Thanos loses here!!!

Besides, do you really want to worship a self loathing failure?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
When Spidey used Unbound CCU power to effortlessly recreate ALL of reality...

Yup, and he did it all in a billionth of second, because that's only how long he had the power.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder

Prior to Warlock and the Infinity Watch #1, the IG was all-powerful, but in that famous issue the gems were shown to not be all-powerful as there were now powers beyond it...

TOAA's power was the only thing above the IG in the Warlock & LT encounter.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder

There are beings superior to "TOAA powered" LT like Scathan and Protege; they logically are superior to the gems as well...

Scans of the LT being portrayed as "TOAA powered" during the Protege affair?

Actually, the LT clearly stated that TOAA was above himself, ... so LT was definitely not packing TOAA's power.

While in Warlock & IW#1, LT stated he was literally representing said power.

If anything, evidence alludes to Scathan being TOAA's agent in that scenario.

That's also like over 1000 Years from now so whatever.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder

As pertains an Unbound CCU, this power proved capable of recreating all of the Infinity Gems (as well as ALL of reality)

This is just False.

I like how you fallaciously point out the CCU remade the Gems & Reality, as if that was highlighted in the story.

Again: The Gems are not empowered by reality and/or the power primordial of the Big Bang, they are Not part of reality,
they were still intrinsically connected to the Infinity Being in 2010.

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Anyway, let's put to rest the circles: (scans below published YearS after "Warlock & IW#1" in 1992)

(2005)

"the Gems are empowered by a force that pre-dates our universe" ... (Infinity Being)

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(2007)

The Power Gem was given to Reed after She-Hulk got it from Titania. (Illuminati 2007)

Reed noticed the Gems were "talking to each other" ... "they may be alive"

[img=http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/17403965_IG1.jpg]

The Gems themselves summoned the RG, again signifying consciousness:

[img=http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/17403966_IG2.jpg]

The Gems deliberately didn't allow Reed to nullify the IG: (signaling consciousness)

[img=http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/17403967_IG3.jpg]

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Mephisto's 2010 bio, further cementing ... "Nemesis" is the Infinity Gems.

Infinity Gauntlet 2010 bio, also references the Infinity Being's original story as told by Thanos:

"IG were once part of Nemesis." (Infinity Being) Lonely, it ended it's existence rather than live as the only sentience" ...

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Heck, even characters from other MultiverseS know Thanos' story nigh-verbatim:

That's Diana of the Dark Shoppe, while located in that other Multiverse she is from. (4 years after W & IW#1)

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder

When Spidey used Unbound CCU power to effortlessly recreate ALL of reality...


That's cool. But the 616 Gems (on panel) were "truly indestructible." ...

At-least up until Hickman's "infinity" arc in New Avengers v3 #3 in early 2013. (which retcons this fact)

So, no more CCU googoogaga the gems in 2010.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Lots has changed...

Prior to Warlock and the Infinity Watch #1, the IG was all-powerful, but in that famous issue the gems were shown to not be all-powerful as there were now powers beyond it...

There are beings superior to "TOAA powered" LT like Scathan and Protege; they logically are superior to the gems as well...

As pertains an Unbound CCU, this power proved capable of recreating all of the Infinity Gems (as well as ALL of reality) on a whim without effort...clearly demostrating a power superiority...

So yeah, things have changed...

Lol, really? That's your evidence? The gems weren't even in the story. This is hilarious. Like I said, nothing has changed. The only think that has dominion over the COMBINED gems with a capable used is TOAA through the LT

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Completely false...

A lone [b]flawed CCU was compressing the entire omniverse...

Lets see the Inbetweener replicate that feat... [/B]


You need to come up to speed regarding modern-day versions of the CCU, son.😂

What is this omniverse-compression stuff you're talking about? Please don't tell me that it's from the Chaos Engine Trilogy.